I hate to appeal to authority (but it's quicker then looking it up myself ), Haralabos talked about it at length, Curry was RWB's primary defender, and the Cavs went at him whenever possible in the finals, it's much more likely that he was just exhausted than he was hurt. Players under performing offensively when they're forced into a big defensive load is not surprising, nor proof of injury.

Guarding someone 20% of the time (likely mostly on switches) makes him their primary defender?

Klay was his primary. No idea why you'd say otherwise.

I didn't read it wrong.

09' Lakers are now considered the 8th best team of all time -- right behind...

You guessed it! The 2016 Spurs @ 7th!! You remember the team that got bounced out in the 2nd round in 6 games.

I think I've seen all I need to see here!

Kobe > Lebron

you ignored the rest of the post. Curry was actually very good in that series, btw. He got more hurt in the finals, apparently

That's why you use multiple metrics! That 09 Lakers team was 38th best all time per SRS. They did win 65 games, but I agree the truth is somewhere between.

They were a pretty damn good team. You had 2 players that are top 5 all time at their position. Stockton has both the assists and steals records that are untouchable. Exactly what a point guard is supposed to do. No one is coming close to those numbers, I think Ripken's record has a better chance of being broken. After Duncan, Malone is right there with guys like McHale, Nowitzki and Garnett for 2nd. They probably win a ring if MJ stays retired.

Not saying they werent a good overall team. However in their division they had 3-4 teams winning less than 30 games. I believe they only lost 1 game in 2 seasons to everyone not named Spurs in their division. Having 2 expan teams and 2 really bad teams, free 14/16 wins a year.

He was pretty good, but inconsistent and well down on his season numbers in that series. Just because you are good, doesn't mean you aren't injured. MJ had a GOAT game when he had the flu. Doesn't mean he was running at 100%.

You could see the way he moved. I'm not saying he was running around with a broken leg or anything. But he was running at 80% or so. He could shoot, but getting space and to the basket was an issue. When you have a knee/ankle injury, you are going to have good days and bad days.

And I also agree the Cavs played him well. They know how to play against him as well as any team.

Blaming fatigue is weird. He was obviously fatigued along with everyone in the Finals (everyone plays with more fatigue in the Finals). It's not like he was getting to the basket in the 1st, but not later in games. Fatigue hurts your jump shot more than anything and his 3 point percentage was the only good thing he did in the Finals.

curry was fine. and if he was hurt, tough titties. I know a player who doesnt get hurt.

and lol at green. dude absolutely can not keep his composure. that is a sign of a weak mentality. and it cost his team. but it was undoubtedly deserved. I know a player who doesnt lash out and cost his team on the biggest stage.

Not denigrating--I was responding to someone saying 2016 woyas was the goat team when last year's version was. LeBron faced the goat team and got SONNED. There's not much evidence he even played in the fourth quarter of the finals games.

The point is the warriors in the finals weren't close to the same team in the finals as the regular season in 2016, due to the completely obvious and objective things I mentioned.

You're making up a lot of stuff in the first paragraph, but i cant imagine how big of a moron one would have to be to say curry wasn't injured. Even without a public diagnosis you only have to have eyes and shred of intelligence and knowledge about the game to see the difference between 2015, 2017 and 2016.

Green didnt go on "super tilt". he barely touched the pathetic disgrace of a human being you endorse. Then the aforementioned pathetic disgrace cried to adam silver for a 2 game suspension due to being a beta, bitchmade loser. you have to be a complete beta hater of the game thats softer than baby ****, to think that suspension was warranted.

Pretty sure dray got that suspension for the laundry list of dumb **** he's done throughout his career, in the playoffs and in those finals. He still gets away with a ton of ****. He's the modern day Rodman. His antics come with good and bad aspects. You're whining about his missing games in the finals when he should have been suspended against Okc and your team likely would have not made it.

You have to take the good with the bad with Green. If he doesn't play with the attitude he has, he's probably some journeyman playing 10-12 minutes off the bench for some non-playoff team.

Yep Curry was 80% and Greens absence sorta takes away a bit from Leluckytohave3rang's series win that year

Due to those factors it was nowhere near the monumental accomplishment the Lechoke slappies prattle on about

The achievement was still amazing and (individually) better than anything MJ achieved.

Individual performance in the finals, 1 serie or the entire play off ?

Well agree for finals , when u win with like 30-35 ppg already, pretty hard to find the motivation to score 10 more right ?
Especially the time of Jordan less points were scored .

In before the terrible Jordan slappies use dumb Kyrie as an excuse for why Jordan is better


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Well in 99 MJ wanted to come back, but Phil and Scottie didn't, so I'm not sure what they can say.

Tried telling u guys LeBron is an awful teammate

If it was just Kyrie it would be a dumb excuse. When its Kyrie and 10 other All stars and four other hall of farmers......it starts to become a trend. Next summer when lebron leaves Cle to join up with PG and/or Westbrook and/or boogie cousins and/or John wall in LA he will be on his THIRD different superteam. At that point he'll be drawing dead to catch MJ even with 6 rings, he'll need 8 or 9 rings to equal MJs 6 rings and 6 finals MVPs he got while playing his whole career with the team that drafted him.

You were saying?

This sort of thinking is hilarious. People always adding stupid **** like this to the algorithm and making it impossible for LeBron to catch Jordan.

It's not impossible to catch Jordan be still has enough time theoretically he's just way behind at this point.

If it weren't for Jordan everyone would remember the Stockton-Malone teams as one of the best hoops teams ever. I hated both those guys, but they were good. When GP says Stockton was harder to defend than MJ it should be taken seriously.