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LeBron = GOAT Containment Thread: SABR42, LuckyLloyd, & borg23 Co-MVPs b/c of post #20163

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06-25-2017 , 04:15 PM

#6901

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Kobe is for sure a better scorer than lebron.

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06-25-2017 , 04:16 PM

#6902

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Lebron has a losers mindset

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06-25-2017 , 04:20 PM

#6903

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You could argue that someone like Chauncey Billips is better than lebron in the playoffs.

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06-25-2017 , 04:24 PM

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LeBron ducking the dunk contest is definitely another blemish on his resume for GOAT.

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06-25-2017 , 04:29 PM

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Well of course shaq is gonna laugh, he hated Kobe.

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06-25-2017 , 04:31 PM

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Tell me more about Chauncey Billups > LeBron.

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06-25-2017 , 04:34 PM

#6907

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Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!

Durrant never gonna be taken seriously cause he jumped on a 73 win team. They will be known as the best team but not best individually

Lebron jumped on a super team in Miami and he knows it. He handpicked the two guys he wanted to play with.
So this should mean 2 of lebrons 3 championships are blemished.

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06-25-2017 , 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tien

Tell me more about Chauncey Billups > LeBron.

I stated that in the playoffs Chauncey billips was better under pressure. Lebron is afraid of the moment in late game situations, Chauncey is not.

Of course lebron is a better player.

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06-25-2017 , 04:49 PM

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Lebron is a regular season juggernaut, that is a fact. But in the playoffs or in late game situations he is not even close to the GOAT. You could argue that someone like Chauncey Billips is better than lebron in the playoffs.
Lebron doesn't have that competitive edge Jordan had.
Jordan entered the three point contest and dunk contest every year. That was his mindset, he thought he could win at everything.
Lebron has never entered either because he's afraid of failure, afraid of what people think.
If you could hook lebron up to a lie detector and ask him did he want to take the game winning shot, or was he supremely confident in his self I think you would be surprised at the results.
Lebron has a losers mindset to go along with the most valuable physical god given skills any player has ever had.
Lebron is a passive guy, it's his nature, he would rather pass first shoot second.

Jordan on the other hand would rip out your f##### heart and eat it to take the last shot. Jordan wanted his skills on display at all times.
Jordan was quoted as saying he never sat out a game because he knew there was at least one person in the crowd that had never seen him play before, and he would be playing for that person.
There is nothing lebron can do to surpass Jordan because he doesn't have the mindset to be the GOAT.

Except, that's not what you said. You should work on your english, is it your first language?

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06-25-2017 , 04:50 PM

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If we're holding 1 series, 2011 against LeBron, I'm holding the fact that Jordan was never good enough between 18-20 years old to be in the NBA. We don't get to just polish over Jordan blemishes and discount them as we choose.

LeBron was NBA ready at 18, probably even 17. Jordan would have been cut at 18 if he was drafted by the NBA.

Basketball GOATness is like art. LeBron had 1 subpar painting, yet put together countless master pieces since he was 16 years old. Find me another player that will surpass what LeBron is doing beginning at 18 years old till retirement, probably 16-17 straight years of greatness. I'll wait a long freaking time.

Yes lebron is the most physically gifted athlete of all time. Jordan did more with less. You just made yourself look stupid.
When you have more god given talents than anyone all time there is no excuse for losing the way lebron has.
Nuff said.

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06-25-2017 , 04:52 PM

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So losing in the finals is a bad thing, but losing other times in the playoffs is normalcy?

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06-25-2017 , 04:53 PM

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Jordan's killer instinct, attitude, and mindset is what makes him the GOAT.

Lebron was born with more god given physical talent than Jordan for sure, but he has never had the right mindset to maximize his talent.

If you gave lebron Jordan's mindset he would be the goat.

If you gave Jordan lebron's mindset he would be a Vince Carter type player at best.
That is the difference, lebron doesn't have and never will have a killer instinct like Jordan. Jordan would literally die (flu game) to win.
Lebron has been quoted as saying " it's just basketball "

In my opinion Kobe is better than lebron, he also has the it factor I'm talking about that lebron doesn't possess.
I just don't feel confident when the game is on the line and the ball is in lebrons hands.
Michael and Kobe both have no fear with the game on the line.

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06-25-2017 , 04:55 PM

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So losing in the finals is a bad thing, but losing other times in the playoffs is normalcy?

Jordan was never upset in the playoffs. Strictly by seeding 24-0.

So wtf are you talking about

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06-25-2017 , 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tien

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My point is that Jordan has blemishes too. He wasn't perfect, and neither was LeBron.

So if LeBron critics want to point fingers at 2011, I will point a finger at Jordan's college career.

We take the aggregate of the positives of a great artist to determine his legacy. We don't say Picasso isn't the GOAT because he had 1 sub par painting out of dozens of masterpieces.

2007 was a LeBron masterpiece. Going into the league at 18 was a masterpiece. 2009 with 66 wins was a materpiece. Hauling a hobbled Cavs team to 6 games in 2015 was a masterpiece. 27 game win streak is a masterpiece. 7 straight finals, It goes on and on and on.

And I'm not even talking about his finals victories.

I troll Jordan fans but I consider LeBron on the same level. It's coming. Every year the conversation just gets more heated. Jordan fans just gonna have to accept that this GOAT bus better make room for 2 seats in the house.

3-8 in finals.
Sounds like someone put a mustache on Mona Lisa there Picasso

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06-25-2017 , 04:59 PM

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Jordan was never upset in the playoffs. Strictly by seeding 24-0.

So wtf are you talking about

That's not what I wrote.

Jordan lost in the playoffs 7 times including a few times in the first round. Jordan, I don't think his teams upset many teams either by the same speak.

Again, I think you have trouble understanding the English language. It isn't your strong suit.

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06-25-2017 , 05:00 PM

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3-8 in finals.
Sounds like someone put a mustache on Mona Lisa there Picasso

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Bigger Overachievement: Jordan's 1989 Playoff Run vs. Lebron's 2007

Jordan's Bulls were 47-25 and the 6 seed.
Lebron's Cavs were 50-32 and the 2 seed.

1st Round Jordan: CLE...(#3 seed, 57-25, #2 ranked defense... 40.0.. 6.0.. 8.1.. 51.8% FG)
1st Round Lebron: WSH (#7 seed, 41-41, #28 ranked defense.. 27.0.. 8.5.. 7.5.. 42.5% FG)

2nd Round Jordan: NYK (#2 seed, 52-30, #10 ranked defense... 35.5.. 9.5.. 8.3.. 55.0% FG)
2nd Round Lebron: NJN (#6 seed, 41-41, #15 ranked defense... 24.7.. 7.3.. 8.5.. 42.3% FG)

Conf. Finals Jordan: DET (#1 seed, 62-30, #3 ranked defense... 30.0.. 5.5.. 6.5.. 46.0% FG)
Conf. Finals Lebron: DET (#1 seed, 53-29, #7 ranked defense... 25.7.. 9.1.. 8.5.. 44.9% FG)

Stats at 21 years old versus championship team and #1 defense:

Jordan vs. 86' Celtics:. 44 ppg on 51%
Lebron vs. 07' iSpurs:. 22 ppg on 36%

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06-25-2017 , 05:14 PM

#6917

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Lebron day dreaming about being goog under pressure

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06-25-2017 , 05:15 PM

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The LeBron idiots have gotten thoroughly embarassed itt. Makes sense given the loser their hero is. The amount of pure trolling they've resorted to is sad tho.

Other than MAYBE capone there is not a single LeBron idiot posting in good faith anymore. This thread should be locked as the debate has been properly won.

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06-25-2017 , 05:26 PM

#6919

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Incredible

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06-25-2017 , 05:46 PM

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no one in their right mind should be posting in good faith as a response to anyone but fidstar-poker on that side of the argument. Even though it's tempting to shutdown and laugh at "Kobe > Lebron" "Chauncey Billups was clutch", etc

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06-25-2017 , 05:46 PM

#6921

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Career turnovers
Lebron: 3619
Jordan: 2924

Scoring titles
Lebron: 1. Lmao
Jordan:10. Goat

So funny

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06-25-2017 , 05:47 PM

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50 point games
Jordan:30
Kobe: 24
Elgin Baylor:14
Rick Barry: 13
Iverson:11
Lebron:9

WaaaWaaaWaaa

Even funnier

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06-25-2017 , 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Discipline12

Lebron
I don't always choke but when I do it's in the 4th quarter.
I am the most overrated player in the world.

Jordan
Sorry lebron but Obama care doesn't cover choking!!

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