How is this still a thread. I'm a lol old and even I realize there is one true king and he didn't play last century. The last year further clarified the GOAT in football, basketball, and tennis and yet still there is "debate".

I'm guessing the Gerbil dude upthread is the same weirdo who kept getting banned obsessing over this. Forgot his original handle. Sick life.

dude thats bc he faced far better competition than jordan did. I mean, lets face it, those years that jordan 3peated the competition was really mediocre.

they were not facing all time great teams like the spurs or warriors.

Let's try again with my question that you conveniently ignored:

Cut the NBA league in half, would Lebron had an easier task in front of him when half the players in the league would not be good enough to make it ?

I just think you underestimate the will to win in sports .

No way Gordie Howe, Maurice Richard in hockey would think that.
Football in the 60 as well or any sport.
Yeah money helps to increase the pool in the average talent players but to be on top and the amount of work and suffer it needs to be, money is not their main motivation .

ya see, with jordan, all that matters is winning.

but with lebron, there is always excuses to diminish his wins. had to come from behind. ray allen made a 3 pter at some point in time.

seriously, dude, think about your arguments.

and also, check the ppl on your side. we have a guy who was banned from oot bc he creepily incessantly internet bullied a mentally ill obese girl and a trump supporter.

seriously, like you may want to reassess things.

thats bc you are a stupid person

if he is born in the 60s then he dominates even more. look at pictures of the guy in high school. he had an nba ready freak body at 17. and thats growing up in the ghetto with almost surely terrible nutrition considering his mom was a crack whore.

and secondly, lebron would be so far more dominant in the era of hand checking and illegal defense that it would not even be fair. the only teams to really slow him down, celts spurs and mavs, played defense that would have been illegal in the 80s. they shaded off their men and essentially guarded lebron with the whole team.

forcing a team to play him 1v1, would be suicide. no man would be strong enough to disrupt him with hand checks and he would have all the space needed to get to the rim. every single time.

you guys are just like, really bad at this.

Victor, you got a way with words. And that way is that of a teenage girl with terrible grammar.

It will be funny to see LeBron lose again, and everyone is used to it at this point, hopefully he tears his jersey off and stomps off the court as he is wont to do. I like seeing bitches flip out

hes the guy who got banned from oot for repeatedly insulting that fat bipolar girl. and that is in a thread where the whole forum just insults her. he was so far beyond everyone else that he actually got banned for it.

do you have a date for when LeBron will lose again? I want to put it on my calendar since the man hasn't lost in over 5 weeks now.

It's funny how no one ever brings up lol illegal defense. Just imagine Bron in the mandated man v man era. It'd be ungodly awesome.

Until he lost to Reggie Miller and Dutch Guy Who Dunks because the competition was so fierce. 3 pointers, a Euro who can slam dunk. Murderers ****ing row. And that's only if he got by Grandmama.

For the Lebron supporters, how much would your opinion change if Jordan hadn't gone to Baseball and his Bulls had won 8 in a row?

I was easily on the Jordan side until Lebron crushed last years playoffs. If he finishes the deal this year I'm fully accepting Lebron as the GOAT, but it's hard to put Jordan as #2 to anybody, because in the time he played his peak years, he did nothing but dominate, and you can't do more than that. When Jordan had the legit team around him, he titled every year, and Lebron didn't do that with the Heat.

The way I see it, Jordan was the best of an era, and Lebron was the best of a later era. The best in a later era, when in doubt, is always better than the best in a previous era. But what was Jordan supposed to do, that he didn't do? Other than not missing 2 years in the middle of his career, all he did during his prime was win MVP's and finals MVP's, and be far and away the best player in the league.

First win vs Lakers 4-1 !
( Magic around 31-32 and worthy 30, washed up ?)

and beat the piston before 4-0 in the CF ? when dumars/thomas and rodman not even 30.

92 ok

93 suns with barkley (mvp season ) and 62 wins sucked ?


97 jazz (1st seeded) with malone averageing 27ppg and 9.8 blocks on a team of 64 wins , stockton in it , hornacek not bad either.

98 same thing with 62 wins (1st seeded)

Rather say Jordan never been the goat because no one was good at that time...

It was nice to watch that clip from Game 5 of LeBron versus Pistons. I remember watching that on TV when it happened. It was unbelievable.

I think MJ is the best of all time, but LeBron is very close. In the arguments section, the LeBron side has much better ones than the MJ side.

Big guys do not means automatically skills.


Lebron was force too learn defense with out hand checking, you think any player before would not been able to learn it, comon...
And getting hit Lebron never had to go trough that, not saying he could not take it but would you agree not getting consatntly hit trough out a career compared to jordan and that era, easier to have a healty body to prolonged a career ?

Well Jordan was always double teamed so...

you dont think lebron would have developed skills? dude lay off the paint chips.

Of course this guy thinks McEnroe was better than Federer

You are just missing the point.
Techniques of play and training was not the same in the 60 and 80 compare to today, of course any players gets better today compared to previously because they actually had the opportunity to learn better technique of training and all that stuff..
Players of today learn from the players previously to get better, it is called evolution btw.

If you think Lebron would be the same player today and putting in the era previously, you are seriously mistaking.

Why would Lebron would still the same great player with less training but the other greats like chamberlain,Russel Jordan Bird and others with better training and opposition ( you know having better opposition force you to get better by elevating your game) could not be better today....

I totally disagree with your line of thinking.

I see, took me a long time to see you're a troll should of know better, well good catch on me from you, congratz...

i am done with you, no sense to talk to someone like you just trying to misinterpret everything.

Carnivore,

Imagine if LeBron quit basketball for 2 years in his prime. I have a feeling he wouldn't be glorified for it.

Nahh, you're not

LeBron also sits out games because of pussy pains whereas Jordan played all 82 as a 39-40 year old, without injecting himself with human growth hormone downstairs in a Miami drug den.

Jordan GOAT

it's probably more to do with lack of understanding that the playoffs are infinitely more important than the regular season and sitting out doesn't matter that much as long as you're in. You can thank Pop for that one.

Lebron led the league in minutes per game this year, he just chose to not play all the games and it looks like it has helped in the playoffs.

stop wasting your time trying to explain logic to these guys. It's obvious the times that they live in today, is the only time that ever existed.

After all there were no ghettos or poverty in the 60's. or drugs and malnutrition.