If Heat lose tonight this thread gon' be bumpin'

LOL @ u trainwreck. LeBron is absolutely much better at getting his teammates open looks than MJ and it's not close. That's the biggest advantage he has over him. Steve Kerr had a better shooting percentage because he's the all-time NBA leader in 3 point percentage, not because MJ's magical or something. His best shooting year was actually 94/95 when MJ was still on the baseball diamond, and for the 3 years he played with Jordan he shot right at his career averages.

in '94-'95 kerr was motivated by the soon-to-be return of mj to keep his team in the mix a little bit longer. so he increased his 3-pt average in order to do that, even though it didn't help the team win a title



he was just as good, maybe even better, of a 3pt shooter in the second three-peat, after what you say is his "best shooting year." but he lowered his average because rodman was there to get offensive boards, which motivated rodman to help them get another 3-peat

i mean, russel westbrook takes the thunder from 2nd round exit team to minimum 7 games with spurs, maybe the Finals.

mj takes a 2nd round team to a 3-peat.

Congratulations! You finally settled the divisive Michael Jordan vs. Russell Westbrook debate that's been tearing the internet apart!

No Croats in the pole = obv fail

Karl Malone has spoken. MJ isn't even the best shooting guard of all time. Debate is now over.

Plus, Pippen was on his all-time team. Guess we know which player really lead those Bulls to 6 rangs. Math doesn't lie, 33>23

Ship the top comment on that story!

Argument is about 2-3 years too early. LeBron needs more ammunition to go into the later rounds with Jordan, but he's wracking it up.

its one vs one for the thumb plus one

it could be, we wont ever know for sure, but will get more info soon, that spurs > heat, okc (w/westie) > spurs, heat > okc.

if spurs beat heat, showing they are too big, but okc can argue best record in West and beat spurs 4x str8 last year, and sure all the harden slurpers will say that was with harden, but they dont know wtf imo, and we know heat got the thunder number.

How many rangz does malone have?

The reason Lebron has a losing record in the finals is because that's the only round he plays Western Conference teams. The East has been hot garbage his entire career.

Jordan slurpers so defensive; the person you replied to was being sarcastic.

lebron cannot dominate a game playing off the ball.

mcbeef posted a table in the Finals thread showing post up makes and attempts for selected bigs. I bet lebron has less than 1 make from the post per game.

if you replaced bron with mj on the heat, wade is not complaining abiut touches, he isnt NOT getting touches, and no one would be complaining about how crappy wade is.

Also, if wade somehow did underperform and average say 12 ppg like potty pippen did in the 98' Finals, mj would have the offensive repertoire to drop 40+ when it was needed.

Has bron dropped 40 this playoffs when it mattered to make up for waids and gosh? Nope. Only commenting in press conferences how waids and gosh are off.
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You're insane. LeBron has put out tons of effort to get Wade touches even to the point that it's been to the detriment of the team a little bit. He was just very ineffective because he had a hard time getting shots off in the lane against Hibbert.

And for all your Jordan hero worship, I wouldn't say he had a better playoffs at age 28 than LeBron's had so far:

Michael Jordan, 1992 playoffs: 27.2 PER, .571 TS%, .216 WS/48
LeBron James, 2013 playoffs: 28.7 PER, .613 TS%, .287 WS/48

if you can't dominate off the ball, then what has been happening with wade will happen from time to time.

and lebron can't dominate off the ball.

for all the stats, why is it so hard to understand that a guy that CAN dominate off the ball is maximizing opportunities for everyone else?

yeah but lebron only has one ring

sarcasm on the internets. Never! Also Karl has come out and said he was joking too, so we can debate it again as Karl says so.

Or, ya know, he could just be hurt.

he sure looked hurt in game 7. wow, he looked crippled.

otoh, it could have been wade complaining (not lying as iggy and you implicitly suggest) after game 6 about not getting enough looks to get in a rhythm, and then the heat making a concerted effort to have lebron off the ball more.

and i notice that you do not refute my assertion that lebron cannot dominate off the ball... indeed, it is that obvious.

not sure if you can be goat over a guy that CAN dominate off-the-ball, while also being capable of dominating as a pg, as mj did in 1989 when he started at the point the whole year, averaging 32.5ppg, 8.0 assists, 8.0 rebounds, and defensive player of the year.

both players did what they had to do for their team to make the Finals.

but lebron's teammates underperform and it almost cost his team until wade pointed out the suboptimal nature of their play.

mj's teammates did not underperform.

also, mj's game 7 vs knicks was easily better than any game lebron has played thus far.

his Finals was pretty legendary too.... meh - shoulder shrug - stats are close, mj far more adaptable & led an optimal style that made his team superior to bron's.
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