I don't see Bron topping this movie either.

Lebron isn't even the best player in the league right now.

Duncan and Kobe >>>>>>> Lebron

Oh good. EdBratz is here.

Lebron has improved some part of his game every single year while not allowing other parts to fall off. So Idk where this notion he lacks competitiveness comes from.

Lebron has admitted faults and corrected them.

There have been 1000s of players in multiple sports to leave a team in FA. Lebron is somehow the only person who apparantly isnt allowed to do so.

Jordan lost playoff series. If he happened to lose a few finals series his career wouldnt be any less spectacular. Im sure Jordan would tell you himself he would rather get to a few extra finals and lose then not get there at all.

end of next season?

as for the o/u, depends on how long he wants to play, how well he ages, how much he chases RANGZ late as an old man, etc, hard to say really

i'm a nit so i'd probably take the under

no poll?

no way. they really that big of favs over spurs?

actually, its more important how much he chases rangz when he opts out in 2014. not sure that heat are gunna maximize his title opps as wade is ripe for a big decline. will lebron be ruthless and callous enough to relocate?

Grunching. I'm from Chicago and love Jordan, but I don't get sore about LBJ being tossed into the goat discussion because (1) if his career continues on path it's on, he'll obviously deserve to be in the discussion and (2) I want to see jaw-dropping greatness, even if it puts my favorite player in its shadow. A part of me wants to see LBJ fail because of, I'm ashamed to admit, puerile jealousy, but I can admit where the schadenfreude comes from, and I can't deny I get the same feeling of awe I got watching Jordan.

Well yeah of course he would say that, but it doesn't change the fact that MJ never lost when reaching the finals. Lebron has, multiple times in choking fashion.

Lebron has gotten better in all facets of the game and the one thing that sets him apart in a lot of ways is his basketball IQ. His post game is still the weakest part of his game. I know its not his mentality, but with his physique ge needs to be going down low more often.

We can't underestimate the skill level of that Mavericks team though. You have Dirk in his prime, The Matrix, Vinsanity, and J-Kidd. That is like 4 legit HOFers. El Heat only have 2 HOFers -- Labron & Dwayde.

Is Wade on pace for a big decline though?
Reg Season Stats

24 PER
.571 TS

His little nagging injuries have been concerning, but i think the heat can manage his season better to keep him more fresh.

I think he can still play great but in shorter spurts.

I know it wont happen but maybe utilize as the spurs use ginobili. Wades always gonna be a starter but maybe limiting those minutes to <28 and giving him days off, etc.

The way spoelstra plays lebron in the reg season. Sitting 1st 6 mins in the 2nd Q and 4th Q.

Play wade 1st 6 mins of 1st Q. Bench. 1st 6 mins of 2nd Q. Bench. 1st 6 of 3rd Q. Bench. 6-10 4th Q mins.

He can increase his effectivenes getting 12 mins w/o lebron and have more legs to finish off the game.

Really im more concerned with chris bosh. His rebounding is weak and im concerned this play with him just spotting up at 3 will become his game. He has a good shot but hes not dirk nowitzki.

I think he definitely is better now. He's just a smarter player now too, both in terms of basic basketball IQ and knowing when to press and when to relax and let his teammates do the work.

Im just saying like other posters have stated people make too big of a deal about losing in the finals.

Lebrons critics have nit picked every aspect of his game and he has improved every area. Theres really nothing to nitpick anymore. The guy won his 4th MVP and he said he wants to improve foul shooting. He shoots 75% probably league avg for a perimeter player. But that is where we are at with him. Hes improved every aspect of his game and its down to foul shooting.

And again, no one is arguing that if Lebron retired today he is > Jordan.

But after 10 seasons assuming he wins ring #2 along with 4 MVPs that accomplishment is =/>Jordan.

If Lebron accomplishes all that and we use the age comparison its definitely > Jordan.

I dont thinks theres much else to say except stop resisting lebron and appreciate what were watching. It doesnt come along very often. I feel fortunate to see MJ play his last 3 years with the Bulls and wish I could see the whole career but I had to settle for ESPN classic to watch more of his career.

Agree completely. More diverse, more efficient and just looks like hes in complete control at all times and can do as he feels at any given moment. He is patiently waiting to take charge. If its necessary he will if its not he'll go with the flow.

I wouldnt necesarilly call him streaky in Cleveland but it just seems he can flip a switch anytime he wants now.

LeBron would take his talents to Moron Mountain when they're down at halftime.

Thought the consensus was bosh is a favorite for the hof

We're talking about a guy that made some dumbass video to try and make the all star game.

Well he will campaign just as hard for the HOF. He will make it if he wins some more.

Speaking of Bosh. Who do you like more going forward, wade or bosh?

Luxury tax will come in, I believe next year. If you had to trade one who is it?

When LeBron opts out I hope there is another televised "the Decision."

Also, if MJ was in the league right now at the same age as LeBron there would be a tiny number of LeBron backers on here and the rest of SE would be gigantic MJ slurpers because of his mega baller lifestyle.

One point lead mother****ers

Well hey we know what Lebron is the GOAT at...flopping.

confirmed

LeBron choking again in big games

Thread can be closed now. Lebron GOAT BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.