yeah a team with no hope of competing really needs to rush him to league asap

i mean look how great it's working with hosmer

He has nothing left to prove in minors. It wouldn't be rushing him. Hosmer was excellent as a rookie. Obv he's slumping this year, but still has elite ceiling as a hitter. If they have hopes of winning starting next year, might as well get Myers his ABs now.

pcl tho

yeah and it wouldn't it have been nice if he had gotten a little closer to that ceiling in the minors instead of doing it while burning his mlb service time?
well they probably don't.

basically fans (and some teams) are far too obsessed with getting prospects to the show as fast as possible which is dumb. small market teams should be following the example set by the rays.

edit: eh i also kinda doubt hosmer actually has an elite ceiling. he has never shown that much power except for 200 pa at aa.

I fully admit to being a bit biased as a KC fan wanting to replace one of the worst OFs in MLB with the best hitter in MILB. Honest q, what else can you get from playing in AAA when you crush the pitching there for months? Don't you just at some point need to see major league stuff to find out what, if any, are your weaknesses?

i don't know jack about actual development but it's clear that hitters get better as they get older. combined with service time rules, putting anybody that isn't a hot **** surefire superstar in the bigs at a young age is probably a mistake, especially for small market teams that can't just throw money around.

I'm not totally familiar with the new CBA so it may have changed, but assuming Super Two rules still apply isn't their a case for bringing up a guy like Myers this year post-ASB and not next year day 1?

Namely that if they bring him up now he'll have missed the arb. cut off to be a super two and they'll get some more time out of him. It's possible his age will play a part in this (I have no idea how old he is) but the incentives are usually there to give him a test run in the majors pretty soon this year I'd think.

Yep, super 2 time is dunzo.

What do you mean here? That the Super Two rule no longer exists in the new CBA or that the time at which Myers would likely be a ST has passed?

As far as I can read ST rules still apply but now it's the top 22% of guys not 17% like it was.

I mean the time this year for it to affect players has passed afaik

they could call him up now and keep him on the roster next season and have him under control until 2018.

or they could wait a couple weeks into the season next year (or like two months or whatever if they care about super two) and have him until 2019 while probably getting more value out of him.

they aren't winning a goddamn thing this year so...

Myers had an opposite field double so he isnt a 100% pull hitter like some. Imo Myers had a better petigree in the minors then hosmer and moustakas.

Saw josh vitters walk tonight, something that rarely happens!

Pretty sure both of those years are off.

It seems like he'll be arb. eligible after 2015 regardless of whether or not they call him up now or the start of next year.

*I mean, you're "right' about him being under team control, but arbitration years are really what matter since a stud will either command a big contract or bend the team over in arbitration.

Bringing Wil up now is the same as opening day of next year at this point b/c super 2 has passed. If Myers, Moose, and Hosmer all are very good players thru their years in KC, it will be nearly impossible to keep them all longer than their time under team control. Moose & Hos are Boras clients, too many salaries escalating at the same time, etc.

However, FYI, the Royals haven't had a guy walk/must be traded because they couldn't pay him since Beltran. So please discount that notion somewhat. Soria, Greinke, Butler, Gordon all have had 2 years of FA bought out in their extensions/deals.

Sorry to make this thread so Royals heavy, we can take it elsewhere if we need to continue. Also several rumors that Glass is selling, new owners could increase spending at MLB level significantly. Clearly there is a fanbase here willing to support a winning team.

The consensus is Myers is the best pure hitter in minors and is ready, though phildo has a point about getting the most value out of him, its a thin line, you dont want to piss him off.

I think they should promote him in september and if he doesnt set the world on fire they can justify sending him back to AAA to start next season to delay FA and super two clock

I seached "Alen Hanson" to see if the breakout prospect of this season was mentioned, and I came up empty. He's a 19-year-old shortstop playing at the Pirates' A ball team who went from completely off the prospect radar this past offseason (not even top 20 in the Pirates organization) to the #40 prospect in baseball according to the BA midseason rankings. It seems like BS that he's ONLY the 40th ranked prospect in baseball given his line: .332/.393/.590 with 15 homers. OK, maybe it's not BS, but if he was the #40 prospect heading into this season, he'd be in the top 5. He needs to improve his defense, but he's an absolute beast.

Does anyone know if BA or any other publication has updated farm system rankings? The Bucs were #11 coming into this season iirc, but they haven't had any top prospects come to the Majors yet. They have to be in the running for the top spot, especially if they sign Mark Appel. BA's midseason list has Gerrit Cole at #6, Jameson Taillon at #15, Starling Marte at #36, and Hanson at #40. (The midseason list only ranks the top 50. The offseason rankings rank the top 100.)

The Bucs seem ready to trade away a prospect or two at the trade deadline for a MLB upgrade, but if we sign Appel before tomorrow, we could have the best farm system in baseball for at least a few weeks. Quite the turn-around from a few years ago.