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Old 03-02-2012, 10:26 PM   #136
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i feel like the nfl has to come down harder than what some people like clayton are suggesting (750k in fines loss of 2nd this year and 1st next year).. i think the saints are screwed by the timing of this just as much as the incident.. we're coming off a year where we saw the first suspension for frequent hard/late/illegal hits.. former nfl players are currently suing the nfl for lack of player safety, and Goddell has made it his personal mantra to increase safety.. Also concussions and injuries are even more in the forefront than before..

im not sure what the exact penalty will be, and im sure there are other teams doing it, but in my mind it should cost some management/coaches their jobs.. does the nfl have a due clause rule or whatever the rule is that they slapped tressel with? like a team has to jump through a ton of hoops before signing a coach/management position.. i think that should be applied to williams definitely and possibly peyton/saints gm if indeed they did know about it and ignored it..
agree

it's absolutely indefensible for coaches and front office to be involved in these type of things. it's actually disgusting.
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Old 03-02-2012, 10:29 PM   #137
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So I guess we are in the market for a new DC.
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Old 03-02-2012, 10:30 PM   #138
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The only saving grace for the saints organisation in this is that the owner told them to get rid of this bounty system when he found out about it. In that it makes it look like atleast the whole organisation isnt full of thugs

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Old 03-02-2012, 10:46 PM   #139
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of course other teams do it, but that's immaterial because they didn't get caught.

This is about coaches and a front office that was complicit in scheme
whose intent was to deliberately injure players

nothing about the superbowl run was fraudulent, and anyone who suggests so is out of their mind.


suspend payton for a few games, suspend vilma, take a few picks away. seems fair to me.

it's a shame because Brees is not 28 anymore.
I agree with you here. The Saints need to be punished in some sort of way. And it's sickening to me to think Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis reportedly did nothing to stop the situation while reportedly knowing about it.

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I seriously doubt that Kurt Warner's career was ended by that hit. Maybe it factored into his decision, but I don't know why everyone wants to say that was why his career was ended. If he was seriously injured, he wouldn't have been back in the second half.
This. I'm sorry, but that hit was clean. Any QB in the league will get lit up a lot if he goes to make a tackle after throwing an INT. It's the defense's free shot at the QB, given all of the rules in place when rushing the QB. Any defender in the league would have taken that shot on Warner. Maybe it contributed to ending his career, but honestly, if he wants his long-term health, he should have retired before this, given his history of concussions. Concussions are srs biz.

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The only saving grace for the saints organisation in this is that the owner told them to get rid of this bounty system when he found out about it. In that it makes it look like atleast the whole organisation isnt full of thugs
This. Thankfully, Benson attempted to do the right thing. You can only lead a horse to water.

Also, everyone hoping this causes Brees to not re-sign with the Saints or wishing injury upon him are just haters. Haters gonna hate.
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Old 03-02-2012, 11:02 PM   #140
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Glad to see Jonathan Vilma accepting responsibility for his actions.... oh wait:

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Truly enjoyed those ridiculous tweets today they were pretty Amusing. Loved da support from my tru fans even more tho, Who Dat and go canes!
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Old 03-02-2012, 11:12 PM   #141
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Glad to see Jonathan Vilma accepting responsibility for his actions.... oh wait:

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Truly enjoyed those ridiculous tweets today they were pretty Amusing. Loved da support from my tru fans even more tho, Who Dat and go canes!
Sigh. We just need to cut Vilma already. He was already in a decline imo.
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Old 03-02-2012, 11:17 PM   #142
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Glad to see Jonathan Vilma accepting responsibility for his actions.... oh wait:

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Truly enjoyed those ridiculous tweets today they were pretty Amusing. Loved da support from my tru fans even more tho, Who Dat and go canes!
Would love to know what the support from his true fans was like. "Yo Vilma way to put a bounty on favre's head, That **** is legit!!"
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Old 03-02-2012, 11:24 PM   #143
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Would love to know what the support from his true fans was like. "Yo Vilma way to put a bounty on favre's head, That **** is legit!!"
Lol, it was obviously support for the Saints rather than that.

Some of the things people are saying to him on twitter are definitely uncalled for. It's pretty sad and ridiculous. Half are probably from Minnesota anyways :P

But still, I would rather have seen him just stay quiet about the situation for right now, as I'm sure he was instructed to do.
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Old 03-02-2012, 11:26 PM   #144
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lolvilma, what a tool.
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Old 03-02-2012, 11:30 PM   #145
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Apparently there's an email trail between payton and reggie bush's felon ex-marketer detailing the system and that felon also put up money
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Old 03-02-2012, 11:32 PM   #146
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Apparently there's an email trail between payton and reggie bush's felon ex-marketer detailing the system and that felon also put up money
Level? Source? Am I leveling myself?
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Old 03-02-2012, 11:34 PM   #147
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On cbsportsline
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Old 03-02-2012, 11:40 PM   #148
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http://mike-freeman.blogs.cbssports....64363/35066335


HAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAOWOW

now payton directly implicated

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAOWOWowowwowowo

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The NFL memo also states there was a bounty paper trail. Ornstein put details of the bounty system in an e-mail to Payton, according to the NFL memo. In that e-mail, Ornstein committed $5,000 towards yet another bounty.
who dat?!?!
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Old 03-02-2012, 11:42 PM   #149
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I absolutely love it, unless the play results in a penalty(roughing the passer).
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Old 03-02-2012, 11:48 PM   #150
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May very well be true, but I still would like to see the story broken somewhere else as well.

The NFL should seriously do an investigation into all other 31 teams imo.
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