LOLSAINTS Bounty Program - Pair of Pliers and a Blowtorch - Sporting Events and Fantasy Sports

After a lengthy investigation conducted by the NFL's security department, the league announced Friday that 22 to 27 defensive players on the New Orleans Saints maintained a "pay for performance" program that included "bounty" payments administered by then-defensive coordinator Gregg Williams during the 2009, 2010 and 2011 seasons.

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The report found that Saints head coach Sean Payton was aware of the allegations and did not make any inquires and failed to stop the program

From Twitter:

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Originally Posted by Adam Schefter

NFL investigation of Saints began in 2010 when allegations were made that Saints targeted QBs such as Brett Favre and Kurt Warner.

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Originally Posted by Adam Schefter

A safe prediction: Saints will be disciplined far worse than the Patriots were for Spygate.

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Originally Posted by Peter King

My story for http://SI.com, including the league's contention that Vilma put out a bounty, a big one, on Favre:

King's Story: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...ies/index.html

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Before the 2009 NFC Championship Game, Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma offered any defensive teammate $10,000 in cash to knock then-Vikings quarterback Brett Favre out of the game. Favre was hit viciously several times in the game. That fact was in a report to the 32 NFL owners, sent out by the league to detail further what the league's 50,000-page investigation found.

The week earlier, this happened to Kurt Warner:

Kurt Warner hurt vs Saints in 2009

And in perfect timing... He has joined Twitter... and hasn't retired yet!

https://twitter.com/?tw_e=screenname...#!/BrettFavre4

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03-02-2012 , 06:37 PM

STA654

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punished more than the pats were for spygate?

so will they lose their entire draft?

EDIT: saints don't even have a first rounder this year (traded it), sneaky bastards.
Guess the NFL will have to seize the Saints' 2013 draft.

Last edited by STA654; 03-02-2012 at 06:42 PM.

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03-02-2012 , 06:39 PM

G NASTY

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Punish these thugs.

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03-02-2012 , 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by STA654

punished more than the pats were for spygate?

so will they lose their entire draft?

i mean, if the nfl is actually serious about making the game safer, their hand is kinda forced, right?

the only thing that would surprise me about this is if the saints were the only team doing it

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03-02-2012 , 06:41 PM

CalledDownLight

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not surprising in the slightest

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03-02-2012 , 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by G NASTY

Punish these thugs.

LOL at a ****ing Lions fan getting on his high horse.

Last edited by Pudge714; 03-02-2012 at 06:45 PM. Reason: Now we might only be the second dirtiest defense in the league!

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03-02-2012 , 06:45 PM

BASaint

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interesting

bounty is a brand of toilet paper over here

lol saints..

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seems like they might argue that they were incentivising hard legal hits only

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03-02-2012 , 06:48 PM

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http://www.sbnation.com/2010/1/29/12...-NFC-Champions

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03-02-2012 , 06:50 PM

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LOL at a ****ing Lions fan getting on his high horse.

lol @ Vikings fans, in general.

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03-02-2012 , 06:51 PM

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interesting

bounty is a brand of toilet paper over here

lol saints..

seems like they might argue that they were incentivising hard legal hits only

lol at a 50,000 page document

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03-02-2012 , 06:51 PM

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What kind of punishments do we think can actually happen? If this is a cap violation, there could be multiple fines and docs to the cap. I expect at least 2 first round picks and maybe Payton and other coaches getting suspended.

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03-02-2012 , 06:52 PM

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STA654

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what does a 50,000 page document even look like (in print)?

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03-02-2012 , 06:52 PM

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Wall De Ripp

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Is vilma involved in every bounty ?

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03-02-2012 , 06:54 PM

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what does a 50,000 page document even look like (in print)?

big. I mean, I'm trying to imagin it, but its literally 10 cartons of printer paper. how long does this take to print? a full day?

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03-02-2012 , 06:55 PM

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I'd probably institute a similar policy if I'm a coach. You want to create a battle oriented aura with rewards.

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03-02-2012 , 06:55 PM

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STA654

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here is a 10,000 page book:

so a 50k page book would be ten feet tall ime

maybe it was just a typo and the report was 50 pages long?

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03-02-2012 , 06:59 PM

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LOL ^^^

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03-02-2012 , 07:02 PM

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50,000 pages is a person or group of people trying REAL hard to justify their job.

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03-02-2012 , 07:02 PM

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50,000 pages is more like this:

Part 7 of the Santa Clause

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03-02-2012 , 07:03 PM

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Meh, the Miami Hurricanes did it better.

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03-02-2012 , 07:06 PM

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in b4 nath

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03-02-2012 , 07:09 PM

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Can somebody explain to me why the Saints arent allowed to do this?

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03-02-2012 , 07:09 PM

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Gonzirra

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I can't think of a better time for someone to "tl;dr"

50k pages is dumb unless it's like a space shuttle manual or something

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03-02-2012 , 07:09 PM

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to be fair knocking people out was the only chance their defense had at stopping decent or better offenses

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03-02-2012 , 07:10 PM

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Can somebody explain to me why the Saints arent allowed to do this?

they weren't just rewarding sacks/TFLs, they were rewarding causing injury.

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