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lol no ****

i care about this about as much as i care that barry bonds used steroids was one of many people using steroids and just happened to be the best

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08-23-2012 , 11:03 PM

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Lance is the Roger Clemens of cycling, of course he did it. Probably caused nut loss.

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08-23-2012 , 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nath

lol no ****

i care about this about as much as i care that barry bonds used steroids

i mostly just think its funny because there were so many fanboys who thought Lance couldn't possibly be dirty despite completely dominating a sport where everyone else was dirty.

Last edited by Loretta8; 08-23-2012 at 11:06 PM. Reason: also armstrong strikes me as a colossal piece of ****

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08-23-2012 , 11:05 PM

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"Michel Pollentier of Belgium was caught trying to cheat the drugs control with someone else's urine in a rubber bulb in his shorts after victory at Alpe d'Huez. He was ejected from the Tour. Ironically his own urine tested negative"

that case has its own entry on wikipedia

Now THIS is the Original Whizzinator

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08-23-2012 , 11:06 PM

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raised 500 million for cancer, who gives a **** if he doped, who hasn't?

He also inspired millions of douchey lance armstrong wannabes out there ignoring traffic laws and clogging up the roads. Really it's a wash.

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08-23-2012 , 11:06 PM

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Did somebody seriously bring up murder itt

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08-23-2012 , 11:06 PM

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not familiar with lok2thabrain's body of work?

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08-23-2012 , 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gusmahler

I don't understand how he can be stripped of all his titles. I thought there was a 7-year statute of limitations?

Good chance he won't be, UCI has taken a pretty dim view of USADA's handling of all this.

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08-23-2012 , 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by nath

lol no ****

i care about this about as much as i care that barry bonds used steroids was one of many people using steroids and just happened to be the best

Meh.

I care more about this because there are thousands of cancer survivors and people fighting cancer who see him as a hero to them. I kind of hope the media largely ignores the situation, because nobody gives a **** about Tour De France titles from a decade ago, but there are lots of people fighting cancer who he means a lot to.

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08-23-2012 , 11:10 PM

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well someone in the usada clearly has an axe to grind. armstrong is retired, let it go.

i just think it's lol of some of these sporting agencies to put on this false naivete about this sort of thing going on in their sports. same as when bud selig pretended to be shocked that 70 home run seasons and 42 year old pitchers throwing 200 innings of sub-2 ERA ball was a product of steroids.

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08-23-2012 , 11:11 PM

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LOLANCE...

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08-23-2012 , 11:12 PM

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08-23-2012 , 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Andro

Well, cycling is getting cleaner every day, and it is definitely possible to get some decent results without doping. Of it is all just guesswork, but I would say around 10-20 of top 50 cyclists are doing dope right now.

Cycling probably isn't the sport with the most doping and hasn't been for years. It's just the sport where people are tested the most for doping.
A sport like swimming or 100 m sprinting most likely has more doping than cycling.

As for Lance, he most definitely did dope, and it's pretty ignorant to think otherwise. It's kind of a pointless case anyway though, and I don't think his titles should be taken away.

Tennis though for most doped-up sport

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08-23-2012 , 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana

Tennis though for most doped-up sport

Really?

Definitely would have guessed cycling

Nah **** it it's probably weightlifting

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08-23-2012 , 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jbrochu

Just the fact that GB suddenly produces 3 of the best cyclists in the world is suspicious. I mean, what are the chances of that considering the population and their history in the sport?

We have an excellent history in the sport?

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08-23-2012 , 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Shuffle

People should find real heros, not people masquerading as one.

Part of what made him inspirational to people was the fact that he was a "good guy" in a world of cheaters. Logically, those people should have made the connection ... that if every one of his major competitors was eventually caught doping, and his teammates were caught doping, and he was beating all of these cheaters, he obviously must have been cheating too.

I don't see what's heroic about cheating to win millions of dollars, use that money to get medical care that 99% of the world's population doesn't have the means to receive, and then promote yourself like you're clean when you're not. Sorry.

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08-23-2012 , 11:18 PM

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1.be famous
2. Get illness
3.campaign for YOUR own illness
4.get richer through it
5. Become known as hero even though ur a cheater..

Edit- forgot cheat on and dumb the person that lovingly stood by yourside during ur illness..

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08-23-2012 , 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Shark Sandwich

Really?

Definitely would have guessed cycling

Nah **** it it's probably weightlifting

I'd say it's pretty close run between weightlifting and tennis, but weightlifting actually has a decent testing regime.

Used to be in tennis, young players would arise, peak and then decline. Now players get better as they get older. Some ridiculously so.

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08-23-2012 , 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana

Don't wanna derail this too much, but who besides Federer and I guess Agassi have followed this career arc recently?

Also, why is this ipso facto evidence of PED use?

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08-23-2012 , 11:23 PM

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For what it's worth, here were the runners-up from 1999-2005:

Zülle
Ullrich
Ullrich
Belloki
Ullrich
Klöden
Basso

Zülle admitted to have doped during his career, Ullrich got all of the results from his last few years annulled because of doping, and Basso admitted to "attempted doping," whatever that means.

I find it impossible to either believe Armstrong when he says that he didn't dope, or be at all annoyed at him for doping.

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08-23-2012 , 11:23 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiCIJ2JewPE
one of the most ridiculous lance moments in cycling. Lance riding away from a bunch of doped up riders like hes on a motorcycle. Almost had to hit the breaks in the first corner

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08-23-2012 , 11:29 PM

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So if everyone else was cheating, and lance was cheating, and they strip him of the titles, then... There was no Tour De France for seven years?

Holy ****, its like we were watching ghosts

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08-23-2012 , 11:32 PM

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Lance Armstrong gave himself cancer.

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08-23-2012 , 11:39 PM

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what a dope

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08-23-2012 , 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by master3004

So if everyone else was cheating, and lance was cheating, and they strip him of the titles, then... There was no Tour De France for seven years?

Holy ****, its like we were watching ghosts

I doubt they will take all of the titles away, given statues of limitations and such, but if they knock off some near the end (which I think is possible), it means 1st and 3rd (Ullrich) of the 2005 Tour are both vacated, with 2nd, 5th, 7th, and 9th all having served doping bans or had admitted to doping at some point. That does not even count suspicious withdrawls/firings at other races.

LOL cycling.

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