http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ses_in_cycling

interesting read. List of Doping cases(incomplete according to the wiki entry) on a timeline.

heres a gem;

"Michel Pollentier of Belgium was caught trying to cheat the drugs control with someone else's urine in a rubber bulb in his shorts after victory at Alpe d'Huez. He was ejected from the Tour. Ironically his own urine tested negative"

that case has its own entry on wikipedia

Lance files suit

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mor...igoogle_sports

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/18788834

The infamous Dr. Michele Ferrari banned for life, same for two further doctors! Only a question of time till the likes of Bruyneel and good old Lance face the same, hopefully.

Interesting to see that some americans still believe/hope Armstrong wasn't doped.

FWIW here are the virtual winners of the tour de france during Armstrong years, if we take out those who have admitted to doping, those who have been tested positive, those who were part of the Puerto scandal, and Armstrong of course.

1999 : Nardello (7th)
2000 : Nardello (10th)
2001 : Kivilev (4th)
2002 : Azevedo (6th)
2003 : Zubeldia (5th)
2004 : Klöden (2nd)
2005 : Evans (8th)

yeah I'm sure those guys were totally clean

That Nardello dude seems awfully suspicious to me.

standard. have you seen how outraged some brits become when it is suggested that sky's US postal-esque performance and chris froome's transformation from a nobody to a world class climber and time trialist are suspicious?

I always wanted to believe he was clean. My concerns are he passed 500 tests than there is an issue with the testing.

Also why now and why give the other riders sweetheart deals to testify?

I just dont think Lance can ever say yes I used them.

Just the fact that GB suddenly produces 3 of the best cyclists in the world is suspicious. I mean, what are the chances of that considering the population and their history in the sport?

I'm not a cycling fan but am trying to watch LE TOUR DE FRANCE this year as background viewing. Was perusing his wiki last night and LOL'd at his list of nicknames, one of which is "Juan Pelota".

More like laughable and sad.

I view doping in cycling the same way I look at steroids in baseball from several years ago. It looks like it's so widespread and rampant that it has virtually no impact on how I see the records and such.

Sure, maybe it's skewed, but this whole idea of stripping victories because of cheating has always perplexed me. It's not as if you can alter people's memories of what has already happened. The NCAA "takes away" victories and stuff all the time, and nobody cares.

The number of 500 passed tests seems to be highly exaggerated by the Armstrong camp.

USADA only has 29 tests listed for Armstrong since 2001 (link).

In 2004, when he last won the Tour de France, L'Equipe published the UCI numbers. Lance only had to undergo 63 tests (link).

So this only adds up to 92 tests. It is highly unlikely that he had done 408 tests that were not conducted by either the UCI or the USADA.

Not to mention the 1999 test which tested positive for EPO when it was retested years later. Armstrong and his supporters are good at not talking about that though(and they have the funniest excuses for it).

Really? I view it very, very differently.

1. No testing whatsoever versus required and repetitive technologically advanced testing programs.

2. Advantage of steroid use in baseball is unclear, in cycling it means everything.

Therefore in baseball I agree, its widespread, everyone was trying different things, and its unclear how much difference it made regardless. Furthermore, anyone had access to performance-enhancing drugs, so one could argue that there was no competitive advantage.

However, in cycling the elite teams have huge advantages of money and technology. They are able to distance themselves significantly from the other teams solely due to their scientific and financial resources. Their advanced and unique methods of beating the tests truly meant that they had a competitive advantage that no one else had and I completely understand and agree with taking away accomplishments due to this unfair competition.

(I am not a cycling expert, this is just my novice opinion.)

Headshot.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/24/sp...ce-titles.html

Looks like he dropped his case rather than have the details brought out in the public, right?

Cause several of his old teammates are going to testify against him.

I don't understand how he can be stripped of all his titles. I thought there was a 7-year statute of limitations?

douche ghana douche

cancer tho

that statement is truly disgusting to read.

raised 500 million for cancer, who gives a **** if he doped, who hasn't?

loooool this is great. run and hide, cheating scum.

How much to buy yourself out of murder?

might be the worst analogy i've ever heard