Golds VS Medals. Who wins Olympics? - Page 7 - Sporting Events and Fantasy Sports

TomCollins · 08-09-2012, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ut2010

China won 14 medals/9 golds in table tennis/badminton.

There are only 4 medals for table tennis. Badminton has 5. China of course won all the golds and a few others.

Swimming on the other hand has 34. That doesn't include water polo or synchronized swimming or diving. Diving has 8. US has won 30 medals in swimming including 16 golds.

clowntable · 08-09-2012, 09:25 AM

Medal ranking is obviously ordinal so I'd like to add that disclaimer.

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I would also enjoy the USA saying no one can live and train in our country and then compete for another nation.

This is probably the dumbest statement ITT. Congratualtions.

MaryEllen_Fenner · 08-09-2012, 10:33 AM

If not caring about how many medals the Chinese win were an Olympic event, I WOULD TAKE THE GOLD!

EYESCREW · 08-09-2012, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by TomCollins

There are only 4 medals for table tennis. Badminton has 5. China of course won all the golds and a few others.

Swimming on the other hand has 34. That doesn't include water polo or synchronized swimming or diving. Diving has 8. US has won 30 medals in swimming including 16 golds.

are you serious? China won every badminton and table tennis gold? Those guys have some quick freaking hands! Watch your wallets when you're visiting China.

timotheeeee · 08-09-2012, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by miller62

your first and third sentences are contradictory. if as you state a single competitor would rather have one gold over two silvers, the why should a team rather have two 2nd place finishers than one 1st? my point is that winning, getting gold, is way way way better than losing, no matter how close the loser was. a point you seem to agree with ("Of course a single competitor would prefer 1 gold and nothing else to 2 silvers"). this should clearly be reflected in any "team ranking" system.

Because it's not a team ranking. It's counting medals and finding a reasonable weighting system to gauge a country's overall performance. And getting second and third isn't "losing." It's winning a silver and a bronze. You might wave off nongold medalists as losers, but the rules are that being top three is enough to be considered as having won something. If the only way to "win" is a gold medal, then you might as well sort by gold medals and forget the loser medals.

And it's fine to separate what the individual wants from what's better for an overall ranking. If my choice was between (1) an individual professional team from Chicago wins the championship but the other teams are mediocre and (2) all teams make it to championship but lose, I'd choose (1), but on a ranking of which city has the best sports teams, (2) would obviously win.

Bloop · 08-09-2012, 11:31 AM

Golds per capita obviously. Grenada wins the Olympics!

They have 1 gold and 110.000 peoples.

El Rata · 08-09-2012, 12:31 PM

Grenada GOAT

ForumWithdrawal · 08-09-2012, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteGoose

The Olympics needs to have a few MEGA ENDURANCE EVENTS that last the entire games. Like a massive game of manhunt that goes from Opening Ceremonies onward, kind of like a hunger games. Or a huge pole-sitting (maybe standing so it's tougher?) competition where the guys just go for ages. It would just be so great to have these events go on for 2 weeks and periodically check up on them. Like, you'd be watching live athletics, and in downtime they would pan in to these events to give you updates on who has been recently eliminated. Also, at night, during the dead hours, you would be able to watch live pole sitting or manhunt for 8 hours, instead of watching replays for 8 hours.

Whoever wins Olympic pole sitting would win the Olympics, imo.

They could ease into it by introducing this event first.

teejayC · 08-09-2012, 01:26 PM

I voted for bastard, which means that Britain win the Olympics since Craig Bellamy was on Team GB and he is a total and utter bastard.

egoismforever · 08-09-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Aidan

Luckily you guys were really good at "recruiting" athlete 250+ years ago, amirite

Yeah. Before the next Winter olympics they just need to raid canada and russia and they will win all the gold their too.....

**Dynasty** · 08-09-2012, 10:10 PM

It looks like it may not matter this year.

Medals through August 9th

USA: 90 Total, 39 Gold, 25 Silver, 26 Bronze
China: 80 Total, 37 Gold, 24 Silver, 19 Bronze

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2+2 needs a better color palette

gusmahler · 08-09-2012, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dynasty

It looks like it may not matter this year.

Medals through August 9th

USA: 90 Total, 39 Gold, 25 Silver, 26 Bronze
China: 80 Total, 37 Gold, 24 Silver, 19 Bronze

Spoiler:

2+2 needs a better color palette

Looks like there are still 64 golds to be given out, so it's way too early to call.

ForumWithdrawal · 08-10-2012, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by gusmahler

Looks like there are still 64 golds to be given out, so it's way too early to call.

Friday
1.Men's Pole Vault = US (china not competing)
2.Women's 5000= US (china not competing)
3.Women's Hammer Thow = China
4.Womens 1500= US (china not competing)
5.Women's 4 x 100m Relay= US (china not competing)
6.Men's 4 x 400m Relay= US (china not competing)
7.Women's BMX= US (china not competing)
8.Men's BMX= US (china not competing)
9.Sailing Men's 470= push
10.Women's 470= push
11.Men's 10km Marathon Swimming= US (china not competing)
12.Synch Swimming= China (US not competing)
13.Taekwondo Women= US (china not competing)
14.Taekwondo Men= US (china not competing)
15.Wrestling= push

Saturday
China not competing in at least 17 events

Sunday
China not competing in at least 10 events.

China is not competing in about 38 Gold medal events by a quick browse. Some of the ones they are competing in are still heats, quarterfinals, semi finals. The ones listed for Friday, I wrote push if both sides simply had a participant in them not accounting for favorites.

So there are about 26 unaccounted for if your number is correct and those fields are not set yet from what the site was saying. It will be a lot clearer after tomorrow.

Dudd · 08-10-2012, 01:28 AM

US is like 97% to win the most golds on betfair, it's all but over

gusmahler · 08-10-2012, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ForumWithdrawal

So there are about 26 unaccounted for if your number is correct and those fields are not set yet from what the site was saying. It will be a lot clearer after tomorrow.

Thanks for the list. I got the number of remaining events from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Su...mpics#Calendar