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But in all seriousness I don't think it really matters as long as he takes one of the first 5. Possibly psychologically but idk

the order doesnt matter

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Team is pretty awesome. Vidal and Sanchez are WIM kings

I mean it would be nice to actually have your best player take a penalty. Less butt clenching would occur at least and possibly more butt clenching on the other side but Chile too cool for that

Psychology matters. Team that goes first wins 60% of the time. Having a GOAT take the pressure of the first is important.

Basically professional footballers are unbelievably bad at penalties.

yup

Vidal and Aranguiz are elite kickers. That gives us a small edge regardless.

Bravo was also great (or ran well), the first two penalties look standard when the gk guesses wrong

Bravo is good at penalties, has always been. His problem is that he cant sustain his form through an entire season.

Chile are just a very good team at penalties. When we lost against Brazil you can find my post where I say that with our best kickers we would have won, we have won 3 out of 3 since.

His tackling has been world class for a long time (always?) and is awesome to watch in person. I still wonder how I have no recollection of this way back when he played for Leverkusen, must've seen him a few times.
Aranguiz has been really bad for Leverkusen this season actually, these guys just turn it on for their NT. Same for Vargas, big time!

I want a Mexico rematch, the build up it will be much better. If we play Germany we have nothing to win because we either beat their c team which is preety meh for a final or we lose against them which would be preety lol.

The national team is based around getting the best out of them.
The team isn't built around Vidal or Alexis, they play for the team , that's is why we are so strong. When we play badly it's usually because Vidal and Alexis lose discipline.

We didn't deserve to win. Congrats Chile. LOL at André Gomes.

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Vargas consistently has the biggest gap of country v. club performances of any player I can remember

If pro footballers are bad at penos, who are the group of humans who are good at penos? Our grans?

Chinese people who have been locked away in sporting complexes since the age of 5 practicing nothing but penalties 12 hours a day in the hopes that one day it's an Olympic event.

pro footballers are bad at penos in comparison to how good people think they are/should be

Our grandmothers would be oblivious to the pressure and psychology wouldn't apply.

Like the ABBA penalty shootout idea.

This, the best penalty kick taker of a team scores 80% of the time more or less. That number goes down if the 4th best guy or whatever is kicking it.

Theoretical pros who practice the skill enough to not be bad. It's easily possible to be a 90%+ penalty taker. Yet most 'good' takers have a lower % than that. In shoot outs it's like 50% conversion. That's pathetic. Considering its possible to hit unsavable penalties and to do so does not require luck.

I am.not convinced an international team would be much of a favourite in a shoot out Vs a semi pro team.

Fatigue is a tbing. Both physical and mental. Pressure is also a thing. I'd bet most pros convert much more in practice than they do in cup shootouts.

Agreed, they also have better conversation rates during the games than in shootouts

Of course they smash them in in practice but the whole point I am making is that the conversion rates are atrocious allowing for fatigue and pressure. If pressure takes you from a 80% shooter to a 50% shooter then you are a mental midget. This is why ze Germans beast shoot outs and the English fail hard.

Fatigue is of course a factor but it's a shot from 12 yards when you are capable of striking the ball 70mph+. Football goals are huge. 12 yards is a tiny distance relatively. The unsavable window of the goal is massive when the ball is struck hard. It's straightforward.

It's only in recent times teams have really been practicing hard, researching each other and using game theory etc. Yet look at the conversion rate. Barely changed, if at all.

The eye test penalty quality is shocking as well. Most misses are from **** penalties which will be saved 90%+ if the keeper dives the right way. Very few 'good' penalties miss. And a lot of **** penalties score! Even allowing for hitting the woodwork counting as 'good' it's still true. So to get down to a conversion rate as low as the reality think of the % of **** penalties. It's through the roof.

If all the teams are doing the preparation it balances it out you might say. Well that is true to a point, but when you can hit an unsavable penalty then there should be some sort of upward trend as game theory is irrelevant at that point.

Look how badly 2 of the Portuguese penalties were taken. They were taken no better than a random Sunday league player could manage. Fatigue and pressure turns you from an elite player into a low skilled amateur at that moment at a simple football skill? Then you suck.

I think it's mostly mental. Players indeed are mental midgets. Think they overworry about getting in on target when in reality priority number one should be make sure it's unsaveable.