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Wtf is this competition thing I saw in the other thread? Djokovic has been elite for like a year now since he fixed his serve, and has Nadal even had to beat him in a major during that time? Pretty sure he has been in Federer's way much more since they are the #2 and #3 seeds. And all I have say about Murray is LOL. I mean he is fine talented player and all, but he is a mere pest in a GOAT's quest for majors, regardless of whether he was in his prime during Nadal or Federer's reign.
Djoko's been top 3 in the world since '07. Compare to random oscillations in mid-2000's top players... Davydenko, Ferrero, James Blake? Federer originally had to wrest the #1 ranking away from... Andy Roddick. If Murray is a mere pest I don't know what that makes these guys.
Aqua, your response had nothing to do with my post you were quoting. I wasn't saying that we should evaluate age 21-22 grand slam results to see who's GOAT. I said giving phantom wins to Fed's H2H record for a time period when Nadal was a kid makes no sense.
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Originally Posted by AtThe Aquarium
When Nadal was 21 his GS line was F/4R/SF/W
That same year? Fed went W/W/SF/F
Nadal's first 6 majors after turning 22: W/SF/W/4R/A/SF
Federer over that span? F/W/F/W/W/F
You showed that Nadal reached a Wimbledon final before Fed at his age, and won his 3rd major by the age Fed won his 1st. I don't see how Fed's performance those periods is relevant... I could point out that since turning 25 Nadal has gone W/W/W/QF/W and possibly another W impending, with Fed QF/QF/SF/SF/F/QF that same period, but it's pretty meaningless. While still pretty trivial, it'd be better to compare Fed's first 6 majors after turning 22: 4R/W/3R/W/W/SF. Not much better considering he was healthy the whole time and faced imo easier relative competition.
Injuries are no excuse. You can't say "Well, Nadal would've won every major if not for the fact he got injured". But it is pretty impressive that in majors where knee injury isn't involved since turning 22 his results go: W/W/SF/W/SF/W/W/W/W.
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You can't really talk about "age" when Federer has played elite tennis throughout his 20's and Nadal is a walking injury box that just turned 25.
Walking Injury Box: 17
Elite Tennis Player in his 20's: 8