Taking a year or two off football is really hard to recover from. Look at Vick, he went from legit starting QB in the league to a shell during his time in prison. It took a couple years for him to get back into form. Mike Williams also went from dominant college player to out of the league, before a brief comeback. It's really hard to stay in game shape when you aren't training in team organized drills, etc every day.

That said, it's hard to say how good Clarett would've been. On the one hand, he was dominant as a freshman, rushing for 1200yds in just 11 games, and would've been a logical heisman candidate going into his sophomore year. On the other hand, his strength was shedding tackles and barely outrunning college defenders. There's no doubt he would've been great in college, but he seems like the prime example of someone being a step too slow for the pros.

His entire career was mishandled by everyone involved, the whole thing is depressing to think about.

^^^

word on the street is he (and his handlers) knew that. that's why he sued to get in as quickly as possible...

now, obviously in hindsight you gotta go back and ball out as a sophomore, but he wanted that money (more than the envelopes he'd been getting since he was 14) and even in his delusional state knew eventually his speed was gonna come up.

fountain city,

still haven't had time to watch it, but everyone I know said the amount of goosebumps I'll get in the first hour is absurd.

Prescott...yeah. you're not wrong. that was a pretty well known rumor and he would halfheartedly deny it but the evidence runs contrary. he only started asking about michigan to his basketball coach (Steve Arnold, UM alum, brother played there, takes kids to recruiting visits there, generally pushes kids MM and Carl Diggs among others to UM) after the gf issue came up so everyone here just assumed it was true.

the Ursuline kid was drugs. lots of em.

I do have to watch this tonight. brother was talking about the title game play where he chased down the Miami guy and took the ball away...

probably one of the biggest plays in CFB history.

they show any of him in HS? it was truly watching history and knowing it in the moment. he was soooooo good.

in a playoff game against a solid st Ed's (I think) in kent his first 5 carries of the game were td's.

think about that: the entire stadium knows what the gameplan is. the other team's defense is comprised of the best players in cleveland (catholic recruiting) and he houses 5 straight runs to open the game.

finished with like 403 yards or something. against one of ohio's best football teams year in/year out.

I've had a jjhuddle account since back then, never upgraded when they switched to a pay site but still lurk on saturday mornings in the fall a little..

That strip was incredible. I was sitting in the end zone where Ohio State was ready to score. Probably 20 rows up. The INT is just so deflating. Everyone is pissed. Then somehow we see Clarett with the ball. Officials gather, then signal, whole place goes nuts. What a swing! I don't even remember if we scored on that, if we did, it was only a FG. Just an absolute incredible play. They do show Krenzel getting leveled too, which was kind of funny.

The McGahee knee snapping was pretty disgusting to watch in person, even though I was like 50 yards away. I saw it from my seats.

Didn't remember much HS playing in it, but definitely some.

my brother was saying yesterday that he thought it was one of the best plays in football history. sure they still had to score and win the game, but WHEN DOES THAT EVER HAPPEN?

admittedly, TC you know me...i can't root for ohio state to save my life. but mo doing that...i remember sitting at my ex-gf's house with her dad, and i quietly was semi-rooting (just *a little*) for him to win after that ****. that play doesn't get the hype it deserves...

that play was the play of the BCS era.

someone prove me wrong.

maaaaaybe when vince young running it in on 4th down vs usc?

also realized an hour ago that i didn't actually record this. but i'm 47 minutes in recording it now, so soon i need to watch this.. lots of local cats saying the goosebumps are massive. that said, they're all osu fans, but they all tell me i'll get 'em too since i *knew* maurice when he was young.

another brother story: he played with maurice in hoops when maurice was a sophomore. he played like the first few games of that year before people told him "bro if you break your ankle as a 5'11" post player (and he rebounded like a beast), you're a dummy"...

anyway...brother said "man i remember when he punched aaron ______ in the face in practice...it wasn't even fair".

aaron was....basically aaron craft as a high school sophomore.

i giggled at "it wasn't even fair". maurice was a grown ****ing ripped man as a 15-year old.

Vince running it in is clear #1 in the BCS title era. 4th and 5 late in the game needing a TD?



Dyer's run against Oregon probably #2. 2 min left in a tie game.



The problem is most of the games weren't close. Only five of the games were 1 score games and one of those (2003) wasn't really a close game despite the 21-14 finish.

The Price of Gold tonight.

Actually pretty excited to watch this one. I haven't really ever considered it before, but I'm pretty sure watching the skating at the Lillehammer Olympics with my mom is my first sports-spectating memory.

Completely forgot about that was tonight. I think it was this past Monday or so that it was the 20th anny of the assault on Kerrigan. Saw the commercial for this like right after. Will DVR tonight for sure.

god she has bad teeth.

so far i feel bad for her.

I've always felt kind of bad for her. If she'd've been in her athletic prime now, she could be an MMA fighter and none of this would be an issue.

It's amazing how stereotypical white trash Tonya Harding is/was.

Born into the ****ty circumstances with ****ty parents, would have just been some random trailer park meth head if not for her skating skill.

She was abused and controlled by her mother and then abused and controlled by her husband. I was feeling bad for her up to the moment where she (as an adult and in hindsight) just said "that's rude" about Kerrigan blowing her off. Give me a break.

You feel awful for her circumstances and feel sorry for her and still hate her for being a ****ty person and a liar all at the same time

lol now she really lost me

Is it really a surprise that she's still a god awful person today? Pretty much takes no responsibility for anything, thinks of herself as a victim and this fighter who overcame so much, etc.

She's pretty much one of the biggest scumbags in the history of sports and still comes across as self righteous and indignant.

wat

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True story: One year after the 1994 Olympic Games, Tonya Harding accused two “persistent professional golfers” of stalking her.

story checks out
http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...g=4619,4155074

can't believe 1 of them wasn't Jeff Maggert

Her childhood friend kinda nails it in the end. She just has an inability to take responsibility or show any contrition for what happened.

She just got completely unlikable the longer this went on.

lol they ruined her at the very end, omg that laugh

Was it all Tanya or did they also talk to Nancy?

All Tanya. Nancy declined. She's supposed to be visiting the matter during some sit down during NBC's winter olympic coverage tho.

What's the story about Maggs? I've seen a couple mentions recently implying he's a perv or horn dog.