Well he probably wouldn't try to sell the tape of a random women. So whatev.

Who's this Erin Andrews character?

Yeah I mean it's pretty ****ed up that now she'll probably be paranoid all the time that someone could be watching her, filming her, whatever. And for someone who travels a lot, spends a lot of time in hotels that's pretty messed up. I don't know if you can put a price on losing your peace of mind, and assumption of privacy, like that.

Saying "get over it" or whatever is pretty lol, it'll probably take her several years, if ever, to get comfortable in these kind of situations again. And it's something none of us can probably understand, as I assume the bulk of us here are ugly dudes that no one really wants to see naked.

yeah she has the right to be supremely pissed off and vindictive if she wants, however I think trying to move on and close this "chapter" in her life is the best long term solution for her.

LOL. Have you ever even talked in a girl in your life? It sure doesn't sound like it. Either that or you seem to not understand that there are certain lines that you can't cross in society.

Is EA overreacting? I don't think so, but maybe she is. Is it understandable? Completely. Do I blame her for overreacting? Not at all.

IMO, you think she's overreacting because she's hot and she knows she's hot. That's the wrong way to look at it.

What about the question? Do you think the legal system would have treated the guy exactly the same had the victim been some random nobody girl instead of a celebrity?

Did you see the part where I stated that what this guy did is wrong. Why do people keep blatantly ignoring that part?

I'm not saying what he did was ok, I'm saying people are reacting much more to his actions than they have in the past when similiar incidents have occured and I'm trying to get to the root of the hypocrisy. Why all the outrage now?

Expecting a woman to be logical about super emotionally charged events is just a fundamental misunderstanding of how people think.

assuming he was actually caught for doing something like this to a random attractive woman, yes, he would face a similar sentence. the reality is, of course, that he would be much much less likely to get caught for doing this to a random person.

fyp, but yea, this is totally true as well.

good post

Just curious, what is the rational response to a situation like this?

i believe it's that you have nothing to be ashamed of, because your body is quite exceptional, and to be flattered that hundreds of thousands of men may have masturbated to your image. to titter demurely and say 'boys will be boys!'

Probably similar to what Oden did: call an immediate press conference and apologize for nude pictures of you floating around the internet, and move on.

amirite?

Pretty similar situation happened to my ex where her then ex did the same thing, except this was in her house and he posted some pictures on a few sites and tried to sell them. He got 24 months, and that was just 1 person.

I thought it was pretty lenient given the history and scope of the violation.

Oden handled his thing perfectly imo.. Different circumstances here ldo, but Oden is the man.

I actually think they're a lot more similar than you're giving them credit for. Obviously with stalking there's a level of perceived personal danger that makes it worse, but acting like these two things are in completely different categories seems off to me. In most cases I'm confident sex tape subjects don't want you watching that material and that it was made public without their consent, and in terms of the immortality of it on the internet the same issues arise. And while one can argue that in These Modern Times anybody making a sex tape should know better and has no reasonable expectation that it would remain private (I'm inclined to disagree but it's at least a plausible argument,) I think that was a lot less true 15 years ago or whenever that Pam and Tommy tape leaked.

yeah well Oden has nothing to be ashamed of. I suppose EA doesn't either, but I suppose Oden's fallout is ladies throwing themselves at him and EA's fallout is pervs rubbing one out ferverolously(is this a word?) to her naked body.

the difference, whether it matters or not, is that pam had already appeared nude. it's obviously a violation of privacy, but of a less insidious sort. i guess you're saying it's a difference of degree and not kind, but i'm not so sure. it would probably help if i had seen the sex tape in question (was it filmed by third parties, unknown to the 2 actors?)

I think the issue with the pam and tommy sex tape is that only one of the participants minded that it got out.

I see what you did there.


I think they're rubbing on out expressly.

With her consent, which makes a huge difference. (Also she wasn't blowing anybody in Playboy.)

EDIT: This is admittedly an overblown comparison, but arguing that because people have seen her nude before means that she doesn't get to be upset about a sex tape that she agreed to make getting leaked against her will strikes me as similar to when Sklansky argues that raping prostitutes should carry less weight than raping "normal women."

LOL this happened?

I'm nearly certain it has, but now I'm going to have to find the post.

EDIT: Okay, here's a thread.

Sounds like a pretty standard Poker, Gaming and Life / DUCY topic.