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08-20-2017 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by martymc1
Why does Hefele not play?

Wouldn't mind him up the road.
I was surprised he'd end up there as I've seen him play in the German 3rd league before. Would win every single header tho.
08-20-2017 , 05:36 PM
Imo for a bunch of reasons Wanyama and Dier are net positives for Spurs but negatives when it comes to anything in the world resembling a buildup. Like they both suck on the counter but I assume Wanyama has also never successfully set up a game of Jenga and that Dier is a born premature ejaculator, no offense to any premature ejaculators itt, Fanny have you tried thinking of your queen?

I don't want to seem ungrateful because Spurs would be worse without them, they are gutsy and violent which is good for Spurs. But on the attack they have bad touch & bad ideas & very very bad reactions whenever something doesn't go their way which is like every eight minutes. If Vegas offered futures on something like "Eric Dier snaps someone's leg within 45 seconds of being dispossessed in some way that made him look girly," then I would take the 40 million I'd win there and add it to the 60 million that United would still pay for Eric Dier and use these monies to buy something really useful, like a robot butler for Dele or a talking penguin that was also a butler for Dele, hopefully with enough remaining to finance a procedure whereby Kane or Eriksen would each benefit when one of them was transferred all the other's hair. Secretly I'd be rooting for Hairy Kane, partly because he's more fundamental to Tottenham but mostly because bald Kane would look like the ghoulish revenge of ****ing Nosferatu
08-20-2017 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Fallen Hero
chelsea dominated the second half, and the first before scoring their goal, I thought it was pretty clear
lol yeah right. Were you even watching the game? Spurs clearly the better side today, which I realize counts for exactly sweet fanny adams when it comes to points on the board. That said, I was at the game today and though obviously gutted I didn't see anything here to make me think we won't be there or thereabouts this season (other than the 1 in the loss column).

I'm stunned by the xG stat given how much more possession, territory and attempts on goal we had. Oh well.
08-20-2017 , 07:58 PM
Dier has two passes

Pass back to Hugo
Pass to Ericsson
08-20-2017 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by blind squirrel
I was surprised he'd end up there as I've seen him play in the German 3rd league before. Would win every single header tho.
Only seen him a handful of times at end of last season and he was all action and not a great deal of technic. Still something to like about his style.
08-20-2017 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TheHip41
Dier has two passes

Pass back to Hugo
Pass to Ericsson
60m skillset to TSO
08-20-2017 , 09:20 PM
I've been vehemently anti dier for a few years now. Very over rated.

The year he broke out he had Toby and vert behind him and dembele next to him.

I could be an English international in that set up.
08-21-2017 , 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by TheGramuel
lol yeah right. Were you even watching the game? Spurs clearly the better side today, which I realize counts for exactly sweet fanny adams when it comes to points on the board. That said, I was at the game today and though obviously gutted I didn't see anything here to make me think we won't be there or thereabouts this season (other than the 1 in the loss column).

I'm stunned by the xG stat given how much more possession, territory and attempts on goal we had. Oh well.
Clearly?

Chelsea where way better for the bulk of the first half, got their goal then eased off/held on to their lead.

Second half for the bulk was all spurs. Not saying by any means it was an even game but it was much closer than you are making out.
08-21-2017 , 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by kingweed
Clearly?

Chelsea where way better for the bulk of the first half, got their goal then eased off/held on to their lead.

Second half for the bulk was all spurs. Not saying by any means it was an even game but it was much closer than you are making out.
Chelsea were definitely not better for the "bulk" of the first half. They were better for the first 10-15 minutes or so, and their goal came roughly half way through the first half (by which time Spurs were back at the very least on level terms).

Yeah I think it was clearly.

68% possession, twice as many attempts and three times as many attempts on target.

Again it counts for nothing in terms of the result, and I'm gutted by it, but still think we can be there or thereabouts this season.
08-21-2017 , 02:49 AM
Sidenote, it was annoying yesterday just how good Kante is. Every time a Spurs player would turn anywhere between the boxes he'd seem to be there. My thought process would be "who is tha.... oh it's Kante". Or "who the f is number sev.... oh Kante again".
08-21-2017 , 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by TheGramuel
Chelsea were definitely not better for the "bulk" of the first half. They were better for the first 10-15 minutes or so, and their goal came roughly half way through the first half (by which time Spurs were back at the very least on level terms).

Yeah I think it was clearly.

68% possession, twice as many attempts and three times as many attempts on target.

Again it counts for nothing in terms of the result, and I'm gutted by it, but still think we can be there or thereabouts this season.
All this said, Chelsea were incredibly solid defensively (their shape once they went ahead was ridiculous - sort of moulding between a flat back 6 and a deep 4-1-4-1 at times), and we couldn't break them down, and our final ball wasn't quite there a bunch of the time (probably largely due to how good they were defensively), so perhaps it's not all that clear.

Whatever, we'll be fine. Just annoyed the first game I've been to in 6 or so years was one where we played as well as I've ever seen us play live and we still lost. LOL football.
08-21-2017 , 02:57 AM
Kane had that chance where he hit the post but watching that match you never felt Spurs are completely on top and away to score. Apart from the last 10 of the first half. Big chance after big chance just wasn't happening. Chelsea appeared to be comfortable just letting everything play in front of them and going for the counter. To me i was more confident of Chelsea hitting on the counter and going 2-0 up.

Was anyone thinking wow spurs really should have scored there. I certainly wasn't. I did for the Morata chance.
08-21-2017 , 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by kingweed
Was anyone thinking wow spurs really should have scored there. I certainly wasn't. I did for the Morata chance.
The Eriksen ball across when 2 or 3 people just seemed to miss it. The Eriksen blocked shot early in the second half when Kane put him in too. And yes the Morata chance was a sitter (I was right up that end and had heart in mouth).

But fair enough I take your point. Just said in post above how good they were defensively.

Think it's made worse by shipping two goals to a murdering scumbag of a left back too, against ****ing Chelsea too.
08-21-2017 , 03:37 AM
I'm sure mw will be along presently to explain that Chelsea deserved to win because xG.
08-21-2017 , 04:25 AM
Just pleased we won the game with no Hazard and no Cesc.

We had two debuts in the PL and Luis playing in MF were he did really well.

Conte made the right decisions imo and whilst a draw might have been a fairer result, Chelsea did everything they could to tip the balance in there favour with a team missing its biggest weapon away at one of our main competitors.

Not many teams are going to be taking 3 points from Spudz.
08-21-2017 , 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Tall Paul
I'm sure mw will be along presently to explain that Chelsea deserved to win because xG.
lol

I don't fully understand the metric, but I was surprised to see we were out xGd yesterday.

I'm going to the PSG game on Friday in Paris, maybe I can watch that without as much stress.
08-21-2017 , 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1
Just pleased we won the game with no Hazard and no Cesc.

We had two debuts in the PL and Luis playing in MF were he did really well.

Conte made the right decisions imo and whilst a draw might have been a fairer result, Chelsea did everything they could to tip the balance in there favour with a team missing its biggest weapon away at one of our main competitors.

Not many teams are going to be taking 3 points from Spudz.
Totally fair.

Chelsea's defensive shape was absolutely awesome for the most part, and I just don't understand how you beat Kante. Everyone around me was so in awe of him.

Luiz was surprisingly effective too.
08-21-2017 , 05:09 AM
Kante was incredible. I genuinely think we would have won that match without him. There were so many times where we would be in a scoring position and he was just there.

He'll be a pretty integral part of Chelsea's success this season.

Also not that disappointed with the result. Chelsea were great defensively and it doesn't look like Wembley will be as much of a ****hole as everyone expected it to be.

Obv would have liked a win, but the performance was OK.
08-21-2017 , 05:45 AM
I bet Spurs fans future Grandkids are going to be underwhelmed when they hear about the mega-hyped halcyon days of 2015 to 17, where they won zero trophies, finished 3rd (behind their biggest rivals) in the Prem, and then finished 2nd in the Prem (behind their 2nd biggest rivals) whilst Arsenal won the FA Cup.

They might be slightly impressed to hear that Man City/Man Utd/Chelsea/Real/Barca's legendary Dele Alli, Christian Eriksen and Harry Kane played for Spurs at the start of their careers though.
08-21-2017 , 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by BertieWooster
smaller/less gangly goalkeeper probably saves that
OAFK probably saves that
08-21-2017 , 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeDiego
They might be slightly impressed to hear that Man City/Man Utd/Chelsea/Real/Barca's legendary Dele Alli, Christian Eriksen and Harry Kane played for Spurs at the start of their careers though.
Hoping that maybe we'll hold on to one of them... #thedream

Anyway, I was always under the impression that as a Spurs fan I should get more excited over profit on a player than a trophy - is that not right?
08-21-2017 , 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeDiego
I bet Spurs fans future Grandkids are going to be underwhelmed when they hear about the mega-hyped halcyon days of 2015 to 17, where they won zero trophies, finished 3rd (behind their biggest rivals) in the Prem, and then finished 2nd in the Prem (behind their 2nd biggest rivals) whilst Arsenal won the FA Cup.

They might be slightly impressed to hear that Man City/Man Utd/Chelsea/Real/Barca's legendary Dele Alli, Christian Eriksen and Harry Kane played for Spurs at the start of their careers though.
LOL at anyone who thinks Spurs fans shouldn't be happy with how we're playing and the direction we're heading in
08-21-2017 , 06:49 AM
Thought the ref was pro spurs, chelsea carrying at least 3 players in Morata, Rudiger and Bakayoko while fielding 8 defenders. Oh and David Luiz was worse than useless playing MF.

Wasn't vintage spurs tbh. If it was they'd have blown that ****e away.


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08-21-2017 , 07:12 AM
Mc1 arriving like

08-21-2017 , 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by TheGramuel
LOL at anyone who thinks Spurs fans shouldn't be happy with how we're playing and the direction we're heading in
It's embarassing to be honest.

You should have won the league in 2015-16.

A once in a century event occurred, and Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea imploded. Arsenal were just Arsenal. Liverpool were normal Premiership Liverpool rather than the once in a decade title challenging Liverpool. That just left Spurs all alone to win it, and they contrived to finish 3rd.

Last season you didn't even put up a title challenge.

And through all this, you haven't even won anything. You build years of success by first winning cups, Pochettino seems to have ignored this. If I was him, I would put absolutely everything into the League Cup this season. I would play Winks, Wimmer and co. in the league and Kane and co at Chesterfield in the League Cup. You must start winning trophies soon, or else it will never happen.

Finish this season with nothing but CL qualification, and you will start to lose your key players. There isn't a Trippier ready to step in in every position.

Oh and the £100k wage cap doesn't make any sense. Pay your top players what they are worth before it's too late.

      
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