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08-30-2016 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BAIDS
rangers and celtic winning the spl every year for the next 300 years = dumb imo when there's an obvious and workable alternative

celtic and rangers whooping shrewsbury and co for 3 years on the way to the championship = 1/100th as dumb imo
Obvious and workable if (a) you are an armchair fan and (b) ignore the failings.

It is not the job of the English league or English football to sort out the Old Firm's problems.
08-30-2016 , 12:47 PM
In amongst all this nonsense, Aguero has just copped a violent conduct charge.
08-30-2016 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoopie1
Where as saying "these poor chaps have fallen on hard times, please, for the sake of vibrancy, let them nestle under our wing" is in no way absurd.

It has no Scottish clubs in it, so it isn't a British league.

If we are taking new clubs or expanding the league, please set out the criteria for what exactly the clubs or regions/nations are. Answers such as "ones that AIDS thinks are good" will be treated with the contempt they deserve.
I'm not saying that. My whole argument is that it would be mutually beneficial.

Also, teams from countries that are not just England but include other teams in Britain = British league. Not every country has to be represented.

I propose a very simple criteria. Team that are in a land mass that is part of the United Kingdom. This is (obviously) a necessary criteria, not a sufficient one.
08-30-2016 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoopie1
In amongst all this nonsense, Aguero has just copped a violent conduct charge.
Ruh Roh..

LONDON (AP) -- Manchester City striker Sergio Aguero has been charged by the English Football Association with violent conduct for elbowing an opponent during a Premier League game against West Ham.

The FA says the incident on Sunday was not seen by match officials but was caught on video.

If he is found guilty by a panel of former officials, Aguero could receive a three-match ban. The first game he would miss is against Manchester United in the Premier League on Sept. 10.

The FA said Tuesday that Aguero has until Wednesday to respond to the charge.

Aguero appeared to swing his left elbow toward Winston Reid's face in the 76th minute of City's 3-1 win over West Ham.
08-30-2016 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by joejoe1337
I propose a very simple criteria. Team that are in a land mass that is part of the United Kingdom.
tbh if there was an irish team that could bring a huge fanbase and a competitive squad to our pyramid i'd have them too. moot point tho
08-30-2016 , 12:57 PM
FPL just got interesting!
08-30-2016 , 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by joejoe1337
I'm not saying that. My whole argument is that it would be mutually beneficial.

Also, teams from countries that are not just England but include other teams in Britain = British league. Not every country has to be represented.

I propose a very simple criteria. Team that are in a land mass that is part of the United Kingdom. This is (obviously) a necessary criteria, not a sufficient one.
Right, so we aren't just adding the OF, but the whole of Scotch fitba. Where do they enter the pyramid? It might be mutually financially beneficial, but one side (the skirt-wearing ginger side) stands to gain more than the other.

The most persuasive argument for inclusion is to see Mc1 react when Celtic get pumped 5-0 st Hull.
08-30-2016 , 12:58 PM
FFtard incoming:

If I had Aguero captain last week, if he gets a retrospective red card, do I still lose the points?
08-30-2016 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoopie1
Right, so we aren't just adding the OF, but the whole of Scotch fitba. Where do they enter the pyramid? It might be mutually financially beneficial, but one side (the skirt-wearing ginger side) stands to gain more than the other.

The most persuasive argument for inclusion is to see Mc1 react when Celtic get pumped 5-0 st Hull.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necessity_and_sufficiency
08-30-2016 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BAIDS
tbh if there was an irish team that could bring a huge fanbase and a competitive squad to our pyramid i'd have them too. moot point tho
So you only want sides deemed to be "good". Very different from JJ's proposal.
08-30-2016 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by joejoe1337
FFtard incoming:

If I had Aguero captain last week, if he gets a retrospective red card, do I still lose the points?
no sir. You also don't get goals that are later awarded by the Dubious Goals Panel.
08-30-2016 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by joejoe1337
So what are the other criteria?
08-30-2016 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoopie1
So you only want sides deemed to be "good". Very different from JJ's proposal.
I'm really perplexed as to what you think my proposal is?

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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
no sir. You also don't get goals that are later awarded by the Dubious Goals Panel.
That is good news, last week was enough of a shocker.
08-30-2016 , 01:08 PM
joe didnt say he'd take every scottish club fyi

for me the point is to bring aboard club(s) which have clearly outgrown their domestic league and to shove them in an environment which is more appropriate in a sporting competitive sense. and not for charitable reasons. idgaf about solving old firm problems

no, that does not mean i'd also be forced to take steua bucharest because proximity, travel links, language differences, time zone differences, cultural differences and so on are also factors
08-30-2016 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
FPL just got interesting!


Yeah this. Was leaning towards using my wildcard after the international break now it's all but a certainty!
08-30-2016 , 01:14 PM
Glasgow is a dump. Good luck to them attracting players good enough to keep them in the Prem.
I'd rather live in Middlesbrough.
Edinburgh, on the other hand, is lovely.
08-30-2016 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoopie1
So what are the other criteria?
Ok, how about something along the lines of:
Necessary:
- Must be part of the UK (x)
- Must completely dominate domestic pyramid (x)
- Must be large enough clubs (fan base, money in bank, current squad) to be considered to hold their own in new pyramid (x-kinda)

Beneficial:
- Public support in both countries (?)
- History adds to gravitas of the new league (x)

I dunno, maybe there's some stuff I'm missing, but I have no idea where you've got the idea that I think we should let everyone in. It was only you who made that assertion.
08-30-2016 , 01:17 PM
hoopie is making it all way too complicated.

fact is it would be great fun to us and £££ to all the american owners to have celtic, rangers playing in the british league system. so you just accept them and make up some dodgy reason to **** over the other scottish clubs. it's not hard.

or if you want to accept other scottish clubs you can do that too. nobody is forcing you to do anything. you dont need any overall principle. can always just make up some reason for what you want to do.

Last edited by daca; 08-30-2016 at 01:22 PM.
08-30-2016 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBlow
Glasgow is a dump. Good luck to them attracting players good enough to keep them in the Prem.
I'd rather live in Middlesbrough.
Edinburgh, on the other hand, is lovely.
I predict you haven't spent a lot of time in Glasgow, it's a great city. And they have had no problem attracting quality players in the past. Most of which fell in love with the place.
08-30-2016 , 01:19 PM
All of you should be forced to pop some club colours on and go drinking in Glasgow after a game a few times.

The league doesn't need more money. Rangers and Celtic need more money.
08-30-2016 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBlow
Glasgow is a dump. Good luck to them attracting players good enough to keep them in the Prem.
I'd rather live in Middlesbrough.
Edinburgh, on the other hand, is lovely.
Glasgow>>>>>>>Stoke>Middlesbrough>Sunderland

I won't hear a bad word said about Hull though. Also leaving Burnley off because I'm afraid of TP.
08-30-2016 , 01:21 PM
Why not invite PSG cos their league is **** too

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08-30-2016 , 01:22 PM
when we got milan players transferring to stoke the 'place x is a dump they wont be able to attact players' argument is a non-starter
08-30-2016 , 01:27 PM
if france was in a political union with england and we shared the same language and currency and so on then i'd probably have psg too
08-30-2016 , 01:27 PM
Burnley is a ****hole.

I doubt the players care much from their homes in Cheshire or the Ribble Valley.

      
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