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01-15-2012 , 05:08 PM
That offhand comment about AVB by Martin Tyler caught me off guard as well. Not even accurate. Seems pretty unlike him to say something snide like that, but maybe I've just been playing too much FIFA.
01-15-2012 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PoseidonCubed
That offhand comment about AVB by Martin Tyler caught me off guard as well. Not even accurate. Seems pretty unlike him to say something snide like that, but maybe I've just been playing too much FIFA.
Yeah I didn't really expect that from him. Made me laugh though, but I'd be pissed if I were a Chelski fan.
01-15-2012 , 05:39 PM
lol arsenal
01-15-2012 , 05:58 PM
come on Kev, some ****** on twitter doesn't represent us. Also there is nothing funny about it, the guy is a POS and should be arrested.
01-15-2012 , 06:00 PM
Oh yeah I wasn't aiming that at Arsenal fans, sorry it probably came across that way. People I follow were pointing him out as being an idiot and wanting him reported to the authorities.
01-15-2012 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by kevin21
Yeah. Updated odds for Top 4 discounting both Manchester Clubs.

Spurs 1/4
Chelsea 4/11
Arsenal 12/5
Liverpool 12/5
good time to lay spurs

tough run in coming up
01-15-2012 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by kevin21
Oh yeah I wasn't aiming that at Arsenal fans, sorry it probably came across that way. People I follow were pointing him out as being an idiot and wanting him reported to the authorities.
In response, Arsenal fans did get #weloveyourambo trending worldwide.
01-15-2012 , 06:28 PM
Im so pessimistic that I think Liverpool should be higher than 12/5. Chelsea already have 5 points on us.
01-15-2012 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by kevin21
Some people are so sick.

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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
In response, Arsenal fans did get #weloveyourambo trending worldwide.
01-15-2012 , 06:36 PM
swansea great to watch, it was definitely an entertaining game

dyer has played really well every time i watch him
01-15-2012 , 06:47 PM
Not too concerned about the result (I thought draw was the most likely outcome), way more worried about the performances. Our squaddies have to be way way better if we want to finish 4th. We aren't going to buy anyone this month so we have to do with what we have, and what we have isn't going to cut it unless Chelsea continue to be aids. I've thrown in the towel on catching spurs.

Completely disagree with Lang about Henry, we don't have anyone else that finishes that chance against Leeds in that spot except Henry. Walcott maybe once a season but he never ends up LW behind the defense (oh, and he sucks). Have you seen Shava shoot in the past 2 years? He hasn't put a shot on goal in forever. Gervinho doesn't even know what the words 'shot' and 'goal' mean.
01-15-2012 , 06:53 PM
arsha´ shooting dilemma is really odd
he went from a guy with fantastic shooting technique scoring beauty after beauty to randomly swinging his leg at the ball and looking like someone who hasnt kicked a football in his entire life
01-15-2012 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by cashy
arsha´ shooting dilemma is really odd
he went from a guy with fantastic shooting technique scoring beauty after beauty to randomly swinging his leg at the ball and looking like someone who hasnt kicked a football in his entire life
His goal at OT in '09 was the last time I think I was wowed by him. And 2 out of his 4 (2nd, 4th) at Pool in his 4 goal game he would never score now. It is hard to explain whats happened to him, you don't just completely lose it the way he has in the past two years.
01-15-2012 , 09:48 PM
Just finished watching Goals On Sunday, great show with Zola and Wise.

Kev you're totally right with the Ayala yellow, how he doesn't get a red there I don't know, horrific tackle.


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Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1
Its not about supporting him, its about whether he should be starting for us.
Just shortened your quote to tidy up a bit, i'm responding to it in full.

I'm not saying blindly play him to give him time, most of the work obviously needs to be done on the training pitch and with him mentally. I disagree that he alone totally undermines the whole defence, if I thought that i'd obviously not start him.

I mean the guy is 4/5 years off his peak. His style lends itself to making mistakes, mistakes that will occur less often as he ages and matures, think Rio Ferdinand. He reminds me a lot of Lucio 5/6 years ago when the general impression of him was a wild, erratic liability who was fond of a surge forward.

Funnily enough, once Cahill signs Luiz wouldn't start for me at CB. I've said before I think he'd be good im midfield but I don't think we're going to try that out. I'm thinking he could also be deployed in either full back position. He was extremely impressive on the few occasions I saw him at LB for Benfica so i'm guessing he'd be equally as good if not better at RB. It's something i'd like to see tried out.



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Originally Posted by Langerdang
I'd love to know who Henry was making the hand gesture to at the end of the game.
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It was at a few Arsenal fans who were giving the team abuse when they went over to them according to some of the media.

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Originally Posted by the_snail03
Don't know what you are on about, but from the last sentence and your previous posts you obviously have some sort of vendetta against Henry.

I actually thought he showed some good touches when he came on. Rose tinted specs or do others agree?

Also it is not harsh that Sky got rid of Dean Windass, he is an absolute buffoon and a shocking pundit.
Yeah I don't like the guy but i'd like to think i'm capable of putting that to the side and judging his performances impartially.

The only thing of significance I recall him doing was giving the ball away for the 3rd goal. I think his arrival resulted in a re-shuffle that had a negative impact on the side too.

Maybe it's just that he's not sharp but if that's the case you have to wonder how many games he will be available for once he regains his sharpness, if he does.
01-15-2012 , 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Langerdang
He reminds me a lot of Lucio 5/6 years ago when the general impression of him was a wild, erratic liability who was fond of a surge forward.
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That's kinda unfair to Lucio. Even 10 years ago nevermind 5/6.
01-16-2012 , 05:21 AM
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Just shortened your quote to tidy up a bit, i'm responding to it in full.

I'm not saying blindly play him to give him time, most of the work obviously needs to be done on the training pitch and with him mentally. I disagree that he alone totally undermines the whole defence, if I thought that i'd obviously not start him.

I mean the guy is 4/5 years off his peak. His style lends itself to making mistakes, mistakes that will occur less often as he ages and matures, think Rio Ferdinand. He reminds me a lot of Lucio 5/6 years ago when the general impression of him was a wild, erratic liability who was fond of a surge forward.

Funnily enough, once Cahill signs Luiz wouldn't start for me at CB. I've said before I think he'd be good im midfield but I don't think we're going to try that out. I'm thinking he could also be deployed in either full back position. He was extremely impressive on the few occasions I saw him at LB for Benfica so i'm guessing he'd be equally as good if not better at RB. It's something i'd like to see tried out.
Im fine with giving him a run out at RB and would like to see it, however again your post details the reasons why we should not be putting him in at CB. His style tends to making mistakes fingers crossed he stops in 6 years. Cmon.
01-16-2012 , 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1
Im fine with giving him a run out at RB and would like to see it, however again your post details the reasons why we should not be putting him in at CB. His style tends to making mistakes fingers crossed he stops in 6 years. Cmon.
I recall him having a nightmare at OT at RB some time back, anyway it's not as if wandering out of position at vital times at CB is all that much worse than at RB. Most decent teams will soon exploit that with a through ball to pace merchants.


In other news http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/16480279.stm
take their arm off and be done imo.

Last edited by Sounded Simple; 01-16-2012 at 07:55 AM. Reason: typo
01-16-2012 , 07:49 AM
hey guys,

who should i be looking forward to in terms of the lottery for QPR?
01-16-2012 , 08:01 AM
Wait wat?
01-16-2012 , 08:23 AM
So last Thursday/Friday..

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Originally Posted by Ferguson
His agent has been working hard to get him another club.

We've offered him terms which he has refused. His demands are unrealistic as far as we're concerned.
Then today on his twitter...

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RavelMorrison49Ravel Ryan Morrison


I have never 1s turned down a contract off manchester united

OAFK, we'll agree to disagree. I'm obviously not saying he should be in the team now regardless of what he does because he'll be better in six years. To this point, his attributes have made him a necessity to the side because of the way we are choosing to play, this will not be the case once Cahill has arrived. Cahill, while clearly not being as good at doing what Luiz does well, is for now clearly way more solid of a defender.
01-16-2012 , 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Sounded Simple
I recall him having a nightmare at OT at RB some time back, anyway it's not as if wandering out of position at vital times at CB is all that much worse than at RB. Most decent teams will soon exploit that with a through ball to pace merchants.


In other news http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/16480279.stm
take their arm off and be done imo.
The RB we currently play wonders out of position anyway, and I also disagree that mistakes at RB are equal to mistakes at CB. CB mistakes are much easier to exploit and also that exploitation probably leads to a direct chance, where as exploiting a RB mistake does not, it leads to an opportunity to create a direct chance in the next phase, ball.
01-16-2012 , 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Sounded Simple
I recall him having a nightmare at OT at RB some time back, anyway it's not as if wandering out of position at vital times at CB is all that much worse than at RB. Most decent teams will soon exploit that with a through ball to pace merchants.


In other news http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/16480279.stm
take their arm off and be done imo.
A.C are mad to have offered that kind of money if im city I snap call.
01-16-2012 , 08:45 AM
I agree I'd rather have an error at RB than CB but Luiz just makes too many to play in any position. It's frustrating because he can have good games and he's one of those players you want to see do well even at other clubs - but if he were at my club I'd prefer to see him at CB for someone else.
01-16-2012 , 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Langerdang

He was extremely impressive on the few occasions I saw him at LB for Benfica so i'm guessing he'd be equally as good if not better at RB. It's something i'd like to see tried out.
01-16-2012 , 08:53 AM
I'm more than willing to admit there are flaws in his game but I really think they are exaggerated, or at least the frequency in which they occur is exaggerated.

This is going to happen though because unless you're watching 90 minutes of Chelsea games on a regular basis the majority of what you're going to see from him are errors. Very rarely do you see the good things defenders and defensive midfielders do in highlights packages.


edit @ cashy below : I agree but i'd guess he's played a lot of games at FB purely on the basis i've seen him in 4/5 of them.

      
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