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Old 03-23-2008, 11:37 PM   #16
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Re: Dodgers 2008 Thread - 20th Anniv. of Gibson's Homer and Orel's 59 Innings!

Will they celebrate the Lasorda era by having Billingsley, Broxton and Kershaw pitch 1000 innings this year?
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Old 03-23-2008, 11:51 PM   #17
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Re: Dodgers 2008 Thread - 20th Anniv. of Gibson's Homer and Orel's 59 Innings!

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oski - Pretty sure Lasorda can be around for every month or every day if the Dodgers would choose to use him that way.
Just because they will use him on the 80's tribute stuff doesn't mean they can't use him again. I assume he would also be there for the 70's stuff along with Garvey, Cey, Sutton, Tommy John, whoever they might happen to bring in.
So why not for the 90's also to mark the 'end of his great managerial career and induction into the Hall' or however they want to describe it?

Fernando is a broadcaster for the Dodgers on spanish TV I believe so he would be around too. So they will honor him for the 80's and then if they want to bring him back down there in recognition of his no-no then that wouldn't be tough to do.
By all means, I agree Bob. I just didn't see it your way at first ... for some reason, I thought they would only be sent out for a particular decade. One snub might be Pedro Guerrerro. Arguably, at one point in his career he was the best hitter in baseball (adjusted for ballpark bias). However, he had some sketchy episodes later and post career. Given the Dodger's family image, he might not be asked out.

Of course, we can look forward to Cey, Russell, Lopes, Garvey, Yeager, Baker, Monday, Sutton, et al. for the late 70's (as well as many others). In fact, the 70's Dodger will probably be best represented.
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Old 03-24-2008, 12:15 AM   #18
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Re: Dodgers 2008 Thread - 20th Anniv. of Gibson's Homer and Orel's 59 Innings!

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lineup needs more juan pierre.
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What do you like about Pierre?

I pretty much think he sucks. No OBP, no power, no fielding. Also may be the worst in the league at judging balls hit in the air, which can be quite funny. He's never even has that good of an SB%.

If you have a copy of BP laying around read his blurb. Sunk Cost is the summation.

I'd take Eithier every day over Pierre. also furcal is a much better lead off hitter.
He's probably pointing out the disappointing reality that the lineup will contain more Juan Pierre. That we can put together this lineup does not mean that Joe Torre can. Stolen bases are good, m'kay?
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Old 03-24-2008, 12:27 AM   #19
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Re: Dodgers 2008 Thread - 20th Anniv. of Gibson's Homer and Orel's 59 Innings!

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who's gonna be starting rotation for the beginning of the year?
B. Penny
D. Lowe
C. Billingsley
H. Kuroda
E. Loaiza ($6.5 Million! wtf Colletti?!>!)

I think that is in order too. No Lefties, does that really matter?
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Old 03-24-2008, 12:34 AM   #20
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Re: Dodgers 2008 Thread - 20th Anniv. of Gibson's Homer and Orel's 59 Innings!

oski - I assume you're referring to:

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MIAMI (AP) -- A former major league hitter was acquitted of drug conspiracy charges Tuesday, after his attorney argued that his low IQ prevented him from understanding that he had agreed to a drug deal.

Federal prosecutors argued that Pedro Guerrero, formerly of the Los Angeles Dodgers and St. Louis Cardinals, told an undercover agent and an informant that he would guarantee payment for a $200,000 cocaine shipment.

But Guerrero's lawyer, Milton Hirsch, told the jury that the four-time National League All-Star and co-MVP of the 1981 World Series was duped by his friend, Adan "Tony" Cruz.

Meh. He's messed up. But for a tribute like that I don't think they would snub him.
I suspect they might invite pretty much anyone/everyone who was on that roster and whatever that thing was where he did cocaine with O.J.'s girlfriend for a couple days or whatever. Not sure.
I guess it's possible they snub him but this is the same organization that employed Steve Howe for a decent stretch afterall:

* 1982 — Enters drug rehabilitation after the season.

* June 29, 1983 — Fined one month's salary ($53,867) and placed on probation by the Dodgers after admitting a drug problem.

* July 15, 1983 — Reported late for game and suspended two days by the Dodgers.

* September 23, 1983 — Missed team flight to Atlanta and suspended indefinitely by the Dodgers for what the team says is cocaine dependency. Goes into substance abuse rehabilitation.

* December 15, 1983 — Suspended for one year by Commissioner Bowie Kuhn for cocaine use.

* May 1984 — In a grievance settlement, agreed not to play in 1984.

* June 23, 1985 — Fined $300 by Los Angeles for arriving three hours late for a game.

* July 1, 1985 — Placed on the restricted list by the National League for three days at the Dodgers' request after missing a game against Atlanta. Released by the Dodgers two days later.
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Old 03-24-2008, 12:44 AM   #21
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Re: Dodgers 2008 Thread - 20th Anniv. of Gibson's Homer and Orel's 59 Innings!

One of my oldest Dodger memories (I'm 31) is of a Bill Doran inside the park home run. It was a shallow line drive to left in the Astrodome, Pedro misplayed it and the SS Dave Anderson chased it all the way to the outfield wall. I think because of this he was the first player I remember noticing that he couldn't field. Thinking back on it now who was in center and wtf was he doing not backing it up? Maybe he was coming in and misplayed it too.

They better cart out Pedro. My first Louisville Slugger had his sig on it. Beat, I lost it 3 years ago in a move.
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Old 03-25-2008, 02:05 PM   #22
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Re: Dodgers 2008 Thread - 20th Anniv. of Gibson's Homer and Orel's 59 Innings!

I think Pierre will make an excellent 4th outfielder. I know when Torre was in NY he had enough common sense to bench Womack for Cano. Hopefully he has enough juice with the McCourts that he can bench Colletti's mistakes.
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Old 03-25-2008, 02:19 PM   #23
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Re: Dodgers 2008 Thread - 20th Anniv. of Gibson's Homer and Orel's 59 Innings!

Man, if the Dodgers are allowed to play with 4 outfielders that could be a huge advantage!!
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Re: Dodgers 2008 Thread - 20th Anniv. of Gibson's Homer and Orel's 59 Innings!

Pierre would make a great rover.
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Re: Dodgers 2008 Thread - 20th Anniv. of Gibson's Homer and Orel's 59 Innings!

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Pierre would make a great clubhouse attendant.
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Old 03-29-2008, 12:14 AM   #26
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Re: Dodgers 2008 Thread - 20th Anniv. of Gibson's Homer and Orel's 59 Innings!

Projected starting line up, taken from mlb.com

1. LF Juan Pierre
2. SS Rafael Furcal
3. C Russell Martin
4. 2B Jeff Kent
5. CF Andruw Jones
6. 1B James Loney
7. 3B Nomar Garciaparra
8. RF Matt Kemp

WTF is this grimness? Anyway here is what I guess it will look like on opening day, with Nomar, Kent, Laroche, and Abreu now all injured.

1. LF Juan Pierre
2. SS Rafael Furcal
3. C Russell Martin
4. CF Andruw Jones
5. 1B James Loney
6. RF Matt Kemp
7. 3B Blake DeWitt
8. 2B Chin-Lung Ha

It's also possible that 7 and 8 flip flop and that our old friend Ramon Martinez get's put at 3rd or 2nd.
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I think Pierre will make an excellent 4th outfielder. I know when Torre was in NY he had enough common sense to bench Womack for Cano.
He gave Womack 320 at bats with an OPS+ of 50. Of course this suckiness couldn't be predicted since his previous three years his OPS+ were 91, 40, and 71.

He also DH'd Woe-mack four times. That alone should keep Torre out of the hall of fame.
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Re: Dodgers 2008 Thread - 20th Anniv. of Gibson's Homer and Orel's 59 Innings!

The funniest thing I heard last year is that Kirk Gibson is now a coach with the DBacks and his primary responsibility is coaching base stealing.

But then the DBacks finished 2nd in lowest percentage caught stealing.
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He gave Womack 320 at bats with an OPS+ of 50. Of course this suckiness couldn't be predicted since his previous three years his OPS+ were 91, 40, and 71.

He also DH'd Woe-mack four times. That alone should keep Torre out of the hall of fame.
Considering the hard on Steinbrenner had for Womack keeping the AB's south of 400 was yeoman work.

The DH thing reminds me of when Dusty DH'd Tyoshi Shingo in the world series and left Lofton to misjudge flyballs in center. He also pinch hit Tom Goodwin for Shinjo, LOL Dusty!

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The funniest thing I heard last year is that Kirk Gibson is now a coach with the DBacks and his primary responsibility is coaching base stealing.

But then the DBacks finished 2nd in lowest percentage caught stealing.

Gibson is probably a roving coach in their farm-system, right? I mean, he wasn't in the dug-out at the D-Backs games I don't think.
So the D-Backs base-stealing percentage in the big leagues really doesn't reflect on his abilities to coach that stuff to the minor-leaguers.
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