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07-18-2017 , 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
Anyone else think this could underwhelm on PPV? I realize underwhelm means like 3.5m buys instead of 4.5m but I'm not really sure there is as big an audience for this as people think.

Haven't talked to 1 person who really cares and the press tour kinda sucked, didn't really drive interest in the fight.
First two stops of the press tour was awesome, brooklyn was the only let down tbh & Toronto was probably the best piece of fight promotion i've ever seen. What's going to potentially hurt buy rates is the mainstream media(espn, fox etc) crapping all over this fight & random stories from no name boxers bringing up old fake stories about Mcgregor being ko'd in sparring. The media is making mma & Mcgregor seem like some bum off the street & i hate how they're portraying him in this build up.

Overall though, i think it's getting alot of hype, not sure who you're talking to but when random Jamaican people around here are talking about the fight who never talk about fights i'de say it's pretty big. Heard tonnes of casuals saying they are interested in seeing the two different sports clash & they genuinely are unsure of who is going to win. I say it does 5-6million ppv buys tbh & hope Conor shocks the world & again proves the haters wrong.
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07-18-2017 , 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
If McGregor was a no name with the same skill as he currently has then Mayweather would be at least a 42-1 favorite and the only story would be how disgraceful it is that Floyd is fighting a guy with no experience or chance to beat him in a shameless attempt to get to 50-0 and retire with one final paycheck.
Serious question: Is Jeff Horn more skillful at boxing than Conor? cause he looked sloppy as hell vs pacman & won a decision vs a boxing gr8 in the last outing, i think looks alot better than Horn boxing wise & i just think overall these boxers are overrated in their technique, mma isn't too far behind & we will find out on 26th of august who's correct.
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07-18-2017 , 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Exothermic
Serious question: Is Jeff Horn more skillful at boxing than Conor? cause he looked sloppy as hell vs pacman & won a decision vs a boxing gr8 in the last outing, i think looks alot better than Horn boxing wise & i just think overall these boxers are overrated in their technique, mma isn't too far behind & we will find out on 26th of august who's correct.
Yes.
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07-18-2017 , 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Banzai-
Yes.
Nope
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07-18-2017 , 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Assani Fisher
RT,

Thanks for the response, that was just what I was looking for in terms of some insight from a boxing guy. However, I actually did mean the "clinch" and not "in-fighting."




Its possible I'm just totally misunderstanding boxing here, but the jist of my question was whether Conor could be effective in those 3-5 seconds after they clinch but before the ref fully pulls them apart. I assume its quite physical/tiring to clinch with a professional fighter who is highly skilled in the clinch-game, and I assume Conor will be aware that he can push the boundaries of the rules since it'll be a PR nightmare if the ref DQs him based upon a technicality about holding onto the clinch for a second too long.


I guess my questions are:

-Just how tough is it for the ~1000th best boxer in the world to get into a clinch position with the ~best boxer in the world. Is this something that the better boxer can easily avoid with superior footwork/technique, or is this something that is impossible to avoid if the lesser fighter's sole purpose is to obtain a clinch?

-Do boxers ever land ANY blows from within the clinch or is it literally 100% every time that they clinch and the ref is able to break them up without a single other punch being thrown?

-Is the clinch position tiring(i.e. in fights with lots of clinching, do you see fighters get worn down quicker)? And if so is there any history of the bigger but less skilled fighter utilizing a clinch-heavy gameplan in a catch-weight fight? What were the results?
1. Just how tough.......impossible if Floyd wants to make it so.

2. Yes and Conor in for a world of pain if Floyd decides to fight inside.

3. No idea though clinching tends to come after the fighter is worn down.

Only advantage Conor could gain is being allowed to use all his weapons (kicks/wrestling*) but as it is he hasn't a hope.


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Exo, Conor the biggest bum from Bumsville.

No other way to portray him ffs, at least not if you want to be taken seriously.

Last edited by unwantedguest; 07-18-2017 at 03:39 AM. Reason: *and 4oz gloves lol.
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07-18-2017 , 03:40 AM
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07-18-2017 , 03:45 AM
i remember ricky fatton talking about floyd's inside fighting shenanigans in the post-fight interview press confierence, just a few seconds of it here. iirc he went into greater detail in the press conference but i cant find the bit

fatton's career was built on being better inside than his opponent and he got done
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07-18-2017 , 03:48 AM
If his name was Conor Murphy you'd be getting minimum 50/1.

Yes Baids, Floyd too good for the best boxers at all ranges. CM gonna clinch him to death tho.
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07-18-2017 , 04:34 AM
Conor is a fast twitch elite athlete who dwarfs Hatton. Comparing him to Fattonis a disgrace and bill shot.
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07-18-2017 , 04:37 AM
Any chance you getting rid of that avatar?

Failing that, any chance he's made to stay to **** away fro the football threads?

Can stop posting complete ****e while you're at it.
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07-18-2017 , 04:40 AM
Shut ya fookin mout
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07-18-2017 , 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by martymc1
Any chance you getting rid of that avatar?

Failing that, any chance he's made to stay to **** away fro the football threads?

Can stop posting complete ****e while you're at it.
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07-18-2017 , 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by martymc1


Exo, Conor the biggest bum from Bumsville.

No other way to portray him ffs, at least not if you want to be taken seriously.

Marty I remember some of your post in the mma thread in the past and you very much seemed a mcgregor fan. Just curious as to why you've changed your tune about him?
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07-18-2017 , 06:05 AM
He's not a boxer.

He's a bum in comparison with Floyd.

This fight is wwe nonsense and shouldn't be tolerated but who to **** am I to tell these ****s they can't split a few hundred million between them.

Think I'm a bit soured because this ****show is very likely to be last time he fights.

Last edited by unwantedguest; 07-18-2017 at 06:08 AM. Reason: Still a fan but not ****ing deluded lol.
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07-18-2017 , 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Don't really follow boxing or MMA closely, but I remember watching the Tyson-Buster Douglas fight. Watching Tyson go down was one of the most unbelievable things I've ever seen. I can't even think of a good analogy to how shocking it was at the time... maybe like a human defeating an indestructible fighting android? Douglas was a 42-1 underdog I believe.

Anyway point being I can't count out McGregor. And as I remember Tyson was in his prime and basically demolishing most of his opponents in the 1st round. Mayweather is getting old and it sure seems like he's in this because he needs another big payday.

Obviously still think Floyd will win but I'd be nervous betting a lot to win a little on him. Upsets happen.
Tyson was in an awful state mentally and didn't train properly. He thought he would just win. Floyd is not going to make that mistake.

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Originally Posted by electricladylnd
Tyson also looked past Buster Douglas and thought he could cruise to another win, plus I think there was a lot of personal issues Tyson had at the time. I don't think FM is looking past CM and even if he is, CM isn't a professional boxer like Douglas was.
Yup.

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Originally Posted by tabbaker
Redd has to be related to CM
Seriously.

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Originally Posted by gregorio
Most of the sharp money is on Conor out pointing Floyd.


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Originally Posted by estefaniocurry
Buster Douglas was actually a pretty good boxer with a big size advantage and a strong jab. It's nothing analogous to McGregor.
Also this.

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Originally Posted by Exothermic
Serious question: Is Jeff Horn more skillful at boxing than Conor?
Of course not. Once again, LOLREDDBOILER.
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07-18-2017 , 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by QuietAmerican
Ward vs. Gatti. Those were wars.

Barrera vs. Morales were also great fights. They beat the **** out of each other.

Marquez vs. Manny were also superb.

Fernando Vargas also fought his ass off too. The fight against Felix Trinidad comes to mind.

Unfortunately it's been about five years since anything like those fights have taken place.

Feel free to correct me if I left any out.
Within the last 5 years

Bradley/Provodnikov
Francisco Vargas/Salido
Francisco Vargas/Miura
Salido/Kokietgym
Matthyse/Molina

ETA: 130 pounds is a really fun division these days. Slightly below WW in terms of talent
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07-18-2017 , 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Don't really follow boxing or MMA closely, but I remember watching the Tyson-Buster Douglas fight. Watching Tyson go down was one of the most unbelievable things I've ever seen. I can't even think of a good analogy to how shocking it was at the time... maybe like a human defeating an indestructible fighting android? Douglas was a 42-1 underdog I believe.

Anyway point being I can't count out McGregor. And as I remember Tyson was in his prime and basically demolishing most of his opponents in the 1st round. Mayweather is getting old and it sure seems like he's in this because he needs another big payday.

Obviously still think Floyd will win but I'd be nervous betting a lot to win a little on him. Upsets happen.
Buster Douglas had a way better chance in that fight than McGregor does in this AINEC. So that should clue you in to the ridiculousness of the odds.
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07-18-2017 , 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
Most of the sharp money is on Conor out pointing Floyd.
Lol
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07-18-2017 , 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Exothermic
Serious question: Is Jeff Horn more skillful at boxing than Conor? cause he looked sloppy as hell vs pacman & won a decision vs a boxing gr8 in the last outing, i think looks alot better than Horn boxing wise & i just think overall these boxers are overrated in their technique, mma isn't too far behind & we will find out on 26th of august who's correct.
Of course, by far.
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07-18-2017 , 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ReddBoiler
Conor is a fast twitch elite athlete who dwarfs Hatton. Comparing him to Fattonis a disgrace and bill shot.
Give Fatton a year off the burgers and he'd kill McGregor.
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07-18-2017 , 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Assani Fisher

-Just how tough is it for the ~1000th best boxer in the world to get into a clinch position with the ~best boxer in the world. Is this something that the better boxer can easily avoid with superior footwork/technique, or is this something that is impossible to avoid if the lesser fighter's sole purpose is to obtain a clinch?
Conor is a naturally gifted combat sports athlete so trolling aside, he's probably better than the 1000th best boxer in the world by now, but even still, against the 500th, or 250th, or 100th best fighter in the world, Floyd will decide when or if the fight moves inside. Conor wouldnt have a say in it.

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-Do boxers ever land ANY blows from within the clinch or is it literally 100% every time that they clinch and the ref is able to break them up without a single other punch being thrown?
Boxers strike in the clinch all the time. If you'd like to see watch the first 2 rounds of ODLH/Floyd or more recently Ward/Kovalev 1.

Typically they'll tie up and if a guy has a hand free, they'll throw some arm punches at the other fighters ribs. Doesn't do much damage, but it can convince some judges if there is no other action.

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-Is the clinch position tiring(i.e. in fights with lots of clinching, do you see fighters get worn down quicker)? And if so is there any history of the bigger but less skilled fighter utilizing a clinch-heavy gameplan in a catch-weight fight? What were the results?
It's exhausting. Trying to protect yourself while another athlete holds your head down and/or pushes and leans on you is going to take it's toll.

The best example of clinch fighting tiring another fighter out would be Ali/Foreman, but that's not exactly what you're asking (they were HWs, not a CW fight) In that fight Ali would clinch and hold Foreman while absorbing Foremans punches on the ropes (Ali leaned back on the ropes to try and lessen the impact but he was still taking heavy shots). Eventually, all the punches and all the wrestling from Ali (plus the African heat) wore Foreman out and Ali KO'd him.

You already know this, but Conor is not going to wear Floyd out that way.
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07-18-2017 , 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Exothermic
Serious question: Is Jeff Horn more skillful at boxing than Conor?
Oops, I meant of course he is LDO.

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Originally Posted by Ra_Z_Boy
Buster Douglas had a way better chance in that fight than McGregor does in this AINEC. So that should clue you in to the ridiculousness of the odds.
Yup.
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07-18-2017 , 02:58 PM
I wonder if this scenario could play out. Floyd abandons his true technique because he thinks Mcgregor is such a a novice. Instead of his defensive pick and move he goes in for the KO. Something goes wrong and Mcgregor gets an opening and boom.

Obviously just what if, 99 percent chance Floyd sticks to what works.
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07-18-2017 , 03:04 PM
I assume all the boxing fans are putting their life savings on FM?
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07-18-2017 , 05:39 PM
https://www.mmafighting.com/2017/7/1...her-world-tour

+350 for Mcgregor to win now for vegas, making people into believers, WAR MCGREGOR!!!

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