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1. Alabama 11%
2. Ohio State 25%
3. Clemson 52%
4. Wisconsin 59%

5. Washington 60%
6. Penn State 70%
7. Michigan 72%
8. WMU 74%
9. Oklahoma 79%
10. Colorado 80%

11-27-2016 , 11:56 AM

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If Wisconsin, Clemson and Washington win:
Based on this week's strengths, Clemson would finish at 46% while the UWs would be at a nearly exact dead-heat at 50.5%.

Penn State would be around 58%, CU would be around 65%, OU around 73%

11-27-2016 , 12:01 PM

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We know being a conference champion is a weighting factor but we really don't know how big of a factor it is and won't until the end.

It hasn't been an issue the past 2 season. This is the first year we've ever had to weigh taking a non-conference champion over a conference champion, especially from within the same conference.

Is being a conference champ just a small bump or a huge bump? That pretty much dictates how worried OSU should be. I personally think they are likely going to be in.

11-27-2016 , 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Heroball

Clemson beat Troy by six. At home. Clemson's resume is just not quite playoff good.

Counting V Tech, Clemson is going to play 11 teams that are going bowling. That is actually a pretty solid feat to have to get up and beat a real team pretty much every single week and be able to do it, except for 1 loss when they had a 90+% equity before a couple of crazy Watson turnovers in 4th Q. If/when they win their conference, Clemson is very deserving to be in the playoff.

11-27-2016 , 12:07 PM

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Plus, Clemson was the last team to give Alabama a good game, in last years championship. I think this should count for something.

11-27-2016 , 12:10 PM

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Should pretty clearly be Bama, Ohio State, Clemson if they win, Washington if they win. If either lose, then B1G winner. If both lose, then B1G winner and Colorado.

Everybody else is dead.

Washington over Wisconsin b/c both have identical resumes, but Washington is better from power ratings perspective and also b/c better to have 4 conferences rather than 3. Only reason to have Wisco instead is to reward for scheduling tough OOC

11-27-2016 , 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Heroball

Clemson beat Troy by six. At home. Clemson's resume is just not quite playoff good.

Clemson has the 3rd best resume

11-27-2016 , 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenBears

Clemson has the 3rd best resume

Does the percentage ranking just account for how likely any random team against that schedule is to lose 1 or fewer games? Or does it also factor in margin of victory?

11-27-2016 , 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Heroball

Does the percentage ranking just account for how likely any random team against that schedule is to lose 1 or fewer games? Or does it also factor in margin of victory?

When you play a good team every week you are going to have close games, cause you are not going to be playing your A game very week and the other teams are good.

Also, even most of their close games they were in control to an extent. None of them were like, "Oh ****, we are down 2 TDs in the 4th and need a miracle comeback". Ironically, the game they lost this is pretty much what happened against them.

11-27-2016 , 01:11 PM

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are people trolling about michigan being in? they are ranked third in their own division. not conference. division. good lord. you had your chance to make the playoff and you lost to iowa and then osu. you tried, you failed, better luck next year.

11-27-2016 , 01:11 PM

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I don't believe "bowl eligible" constitutes a "good team". Texas, for example, may play in a bowl.

11-27-2016 , 01:24 PM

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michigans only road wins are rutgers and sparty. those two are 1-17 in conference

lost to a team who lost at home to an fcs team

with pathetic resume notes like that it is not hard to argue against them

11-27-2016 , 01:34 PM

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Michigan's loss at tOSU is more impressive than anything Clemson accomplished this year. And their blowouts over Penn State and Colorado are as well.

When assessing resume strength and evaluating "can they play with Alabama equity" high highs are more important than low lows.

11-27-2016 , 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenBears

Should pretty clearly be Bama, Ohio State, Clemson if they win, Washington if they win. If either lose, then B1G winner. If both lose, then B1G winner and Colorado.

Everybody else is dead.

Came to post similar.

Alabama and Ohio State have already clinched. The language of considering a non-conference champ is important. It's something like that team needs to be unequivocally a top 4 team from a power standpoint, which Ohio State obviously is.

Michigan homers are lol. I get how upsetting yesterday was but it's not even worth discussing if they have any playoff equity.

11-27-2016 , 01:41 PM

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Why even keep score in these games? Lets just put in who we "think" is better. Lol mich fans. Lose two of your last 3 games, one to iowa, finish 3rd in your division, argue you should be in the 4 team playoffs. Amazing.

11-27-2016 , 01:56 PM

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If PSU and OSU were in opposite positions, OSU would definitely be getting in with a win over wisconsin.

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11-27-2016 , 01:59 PM

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Wisc out there at -3

11-27-2016 , 02:02 PM

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Completely in favor of leaving out Clemson for Michigan or a different team. Losing @home to Pitt is way worse than anything Michigan did all season. That wasn't their only struggle @home either, 3 unranked inferior opponents (Troy, NCst, Pitt) that they should have absolutely destroyed if they're a top 4 team in the country. Largely unimpressive all season long.

Pretty cake final couple games for them, while Michigan gets slammed with tOSU @tOSU (possibly the best team in the country).

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brandoncla

1 Bama
2 tOSU
3 Washington
4 PennSt

Yep.

You realize PSU lost to Pitt too, right? LUL

11-27-2016 , 02:09 PM

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Not I sir. I'm already bracing myself for the 4 months of forever til baseball.

11-27-2016 , 02:50 PM

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GB seems right

1 Bama 4 Washington
2tOSU 3 Clemson

Pretty sure Wisconsin gets in over Colorado, but who knows

11-27-2016 , 02:55 PM

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I am not convinced the OSU will get in. Wash is a really good team, and I think that is the spot OSU needs to get. SEC, ACC, BigTen champs are in. Even with the resume OSU has they might not inspire the committee to look past all those TV sets out west by bitchslapping the PAC12 Champ.

That said if the committee does reinforce the "gotta be a conference champ" you will see the contending schools stay away from scheduling tough OOC games.

11-27-2016 , 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenBears

1. Alabama 11%
2. Ohio State 25%
3. Clemson 52%
4. Wisconsin 59%

5. Washington 60%
6. Penn State 70%
7. Michigan 72%
8. WMU 74%
9. Oklahoma 79%
10. Colorado 80%

Maybe I missed it, but can you explain the percentages again? % chance to miss the playoffs?