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NFL needs to investigate because obviously Mccarthy bet on nyg and the under

step aside romeo, mccarthy's in town

Gotta love this play calling

McCarthy exhibiting some consistency 2 weeks in a row.

With 2:47 left and a 1 point lead Turner runs from the TB 42 to their 38 for 4. Tampa proceeds to let 40 seconds run off to the 2:00 with all 3 timeouts. Assuming the sequence of plays stays the same, if they had called the timeouts right away they would have gotten the ball back with :26 left instead of :08 on their own 40 needing only a Field Goal. In the scenario where Atlanta doesn't get a first down we're talking 2:00 and a timeout compared to about 1:50 and a timeout.

was surprised no one brought up Dennis Allen attempting a 55 yard FG, down 24-0 with 10:30 to go in the 3rd quarter on 4th and 7 from the 37. The FG was good. However even if the kicker is guaranteed to make the kick, I still think it's a bad decision

That would require watching the 2nd half of a Raiders game.

good point

red zone tho

Question. Carolina is up 2 scored a td to go up 8. Is it optimal to kick the pat to go up 9 or go for 2 and make it 10. One situation you need 2 scores to beat you, but in the other 2 scores only ties you.

is this real life

Kicking the PAT is clearly optimal

Just thinking of all the people who would complain that one time a team lost by 1 cause they kicked the PAT.

You know it's a dull game when this thread only gets bumped for a correct decision.

Rivera with 48 seconds left first half and all 3 timeouts, calls some random run play then walks off the field. Struck me as obviously stupid.

Coaches do stuff like this all the time and I really don't get it. Their thought process seems to be "we're getting the ball after halftime anyway". Hey ******, you can score on this possession AND get the ball back, the technology exists. I guess they're also concerned about turning it over, but it seems like coaches do this giving up right before halftime thing even when they have good field position.

I feel like Bill Belichick doesn't do this, to his credit. I can't recall specific examples regarding halftime, but I do remember the end of Super Bowl 36 (Rams-Patriots), when the Patriots drove for the game-winning field goal from their own 17 with 1:21 left with no timeouts (over the protests of John Madden, who favored a kneeldown). I really was expecting a kneeldown or very conservative playcalls and what transpired was a surprise.

One thing that I remember specifically learning as a young child was my dad explaining to me that the team with the ball intentionally lets the clock run down to a few seconds before a game-winning field goal so that the kick will end the game and there is no chance of the other team coming back. Made perfect sense.

Would it not also stand to reason that if you are the other team, you want the clock to NOT run down? Seems...obvious. And yet sometimes teams leave timeouts in their pockets in this situation.

Coaches do give up in similar spots too much but I can't remember many instances where they had all three timeouts. Makes it much worse IMO since play book is so open there.

Where was the ball? That matters some... but if your 2-8... **** it... imo

One general thing I see a lot to end halves that really annoys me:

Scenario: A team will have the ball kicked to them, have it lets say at their own 35 with like a minute left AND all 3 timeouts. The other team has 0 timeouts.

Now we all know in most situations they should at least TRY to move the ball, but lets say we're all a bunch of idiots who know nothing about football and we aren't sure if the should try to move the ball or not. Well, here is what we DO KNOW:

It is either correct to try and move the ball, or it is correct to kneel. One is correct and the other is incorrect. It is not possible for both to be correct, or both to be incorrect. One is the right thing to do, making the other the wrong thing to do.


Yet, more often than not I will see this scenario play out like this:

Team tries some stupid run play or screen pass, guy gets tackles, they have like 35 seconds left but they don't call a timeout and just let the clock run out.


WHAT?!?!?! If you don't want to risk trying to go for more yardage, why did you risk the play you just ran? why didn't you just kneel? If the play you just ran WAS worth the risk, why are you not calling a timeout and running the same or a similar play again, and then a 3rd time? Did you just run that play because you had to line-up anyway, but now are too lazy to run another one? Were you afraid if you flat out kneeled your home fans would have boo'd your team off the field? What is your reasoning NFL head coach?

They look at a run play as a free roll at scoring a TD. Playing the percentages.

You didn't respond to my problem. Fine. Then when that DOESN'T happen, call a timeout, and run the same freeroll again instead of letting the clock expire. That's my issue here.

I think the idea is that it's a freeroll at getting into a spot where it's worth continuing with the drive. When that doesn't happen and you've eaten time off the clock plus a timeout, it might not be worth trying to do that again given limited time available. I think that is ******ed obviously, but I think that's the deal.

CBF looking it up but ball was in a normal spot for receiving a kick (~own 20). Don't see what 2-8 has to do with it.

It's massively +EV to play aggressively at the end of the half, but as is typical, coaches are terrified of having to defend their decision in the rare case that their QB throws a pick-6 or something.

Of course, their answer at the press conference should be "he made a ****ty throw, I hope he doesn't do that next time, because I plan on playing it the same ****ing way." Don't think anyone other than BB could get away with that though.

The other thing about slinging it around and either throwing a deep interception or having to punt is...the other coach will just kneel so he can enter the half with the MOMENTUM!