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Kyle Shanahan don't need to know no stinking OT rules. Mario CRYSTALBALL is still unreal dumb Kyle Shanahan don't need to know no stinking OT rules. Mario CRYSTALBALL is still unreal dumb

11-22-2012 , 09:10 PM
Lol dumbass announcers wondering why he didn't score there.
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11-22-2012 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by KatoKrazy
Lol dumbass announcers wondering why he didn't score there.
[ ] coaches did something stupid
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11-22-2012 , 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by KatoKrazy
Lol dumbass announcers wondering why he didn't score there.
My brother in law has redskins special teams, he nearly broke the tv.
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11-22-2012 , 09:28 PM
just had to pop in for the weekly lolschwartz and lolkubezz
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11-22-2012 , 10:39 PM
In before Tom Brady still playing up 42-0
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11-22-2012 , 11:11 PM
I endorse them running the score up here. It's a Thanksgiving game vs a division rival in their house, give them hell.
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11-22-2012 , 11:13 PM
I was already drunk, but Kubiak did no joke 6 obviously ******ed things in today's game. Hopefully someone more motivated than me will chronicle them.
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11-22-2012 , 11:18 PM
the Jets just punted on 4th and 1

Last edited by natediggity; 11-22-2012 at 11:18 PM. Reason: down 32 points
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11-22-2012 , 11:18 PM
playing those percentages
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11-22-2012 , 11:28 PM
Down 7, 3:00 left, Texas kicks deep rather than kicking onside.
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11-22-2012 , 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
I endorse them running the score up here. It's a Thanksgiving game vs a division rival in their house, give them hell.
Do you also support leaving Gronk in to block on a late XP when you're up 58-24?
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11-22-2012 , 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by tireuw
Question: If Houston throws the challenge flag, does this also prevent a booth review?

that would have seriously been the greatest thing I have ever seen if that happened.


Talk about 5th level.
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11-22-2012 , 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by BraveJayhawk
Kubiak

Down 7. 3rd & 12. Running clock. 5ish left. Stand around. Call timeout with less than 15 sec on play clock. Run a 5-yard route

Kudos for not calling timeout prior to 4th down though

If you meant to post this in the


"Post here when a coach makes a good decision" thread, you are in the wrong spot.


You have 2 downs, you call TO, you call two plays, one designed to get a quick 5-8 yards, and now you are in 4th and manageable.
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11-23-2012 , 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by huet38
No. Rule is the review can't help the challenging team, not that a challenge nullifies all reviews

Ok, so if Houston threw the flag, they would get a 15 yard penalty, but it would still be reviewed.


Here are the rules from nfl.com rulebook


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In each game, a team will be permitted two challenges that will initiate Instant Replay reviews, except
for plays when the on-field ruling is a score for either team
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A team may challenge an on-field ruling up until the next legal snap or kick. If there is a foul that delays
the next snap, the team committing that foul will no longer be able to challenge the previous ruling.

It's weird though, based on that ruling, it seems that Houston could have still asked for the play to be reviewed.


Actually, reading this now, if the Lions committed a penalty, then the LIONS couldn't initiate a review anymore. But so what, they couldn't initiate a review anyway since it was a scoring play.


Base on reading this, throwing the flag should be a penalty, but not a loss of a challenge from the replay booth.


Also based on this, if Houston throws the flag, it would make the play unreviewable. It doesn't state in the rulebook anywhere in that section that if your team would be helped by a review then it becomes a non review by throwing the flag and getting a penalty. It just says that your team can't INITIATE a review. But the Lions wouldn't try to start a review, it would come from up top.


Let's say the play was super super close and would take a few viewings to call one way or the other. If Houston's staff got a look at it and decided it would be overturned, they should throw the flag. By throwing a flag, this happens.


Houston gets a penalty for Unsportsmanlike conduct.

Since there was a penalty delaying the next play, Houston is no longer able to challenge.


Therefore, no challege


Therefore, touchdown.



Based on the actual verbiage in the rulebook, the Lions can't challenge after getting the penalty, but I don't see anywhere in the rulebook that says once you get that penalty that the play is not able to be reviewed.


No where in the rule book does it say:

"the team that would be helped by the review, if they throw a flag, its now not reviewable. but if the team that would be helped by no review, if they throw the flag, the review would still take place."


if that's the actual rule, that is ****ing ******ed.



http://static.nfl.com/static/content...and_Duties.pdf
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11-23-2012 , 12:23 AM
Brady still playing. Wtf
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11-23-2012 , 12:24 AM
You should probably read that whole section of the rules before poasting. It should be obvious that rule doesn't apply because it talks about teams initiating challenges (as opposed to the Replay Assistant). These are the relevant sections:

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Penalty: For initiating a challenge when a team is prohibited from doing so: Loss of 15 yards.

He [the Replay Assistant] must initiate a review before the next legal snap or kick and cannot initiate a review of any ruling against a team that commits a foul that delays the next snap.
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11-23-2012 , 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TheHip41
If you meant to post this in the


"Post here when a coach makes a good decision" thread, you are in the wrong spot.


You have 2 downs, you call TO, you call two plays, one designed to get a quick 5-8 yards, and now you are in 4th and manageable.
You don't wait to call timeout after nearly 25 seconds have ran off the game clock
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11-23-2012 , 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by dkgojackets
challenging a TD is a 15 yard penalty. stop posting.
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Originally Posted by brandoncla
wow just another terrible rule created.
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Originally Posted by brandoncla
so now you can't even challenge scoring plays when you disagree with the call on the field. fantastic.
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Originally Posted by brandoncla
The thing about automatic review.. there was no downside to them challenging this play other than the 15 yard penalty that the NFL created this year. stupid rule in place.
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Originally Posted by brandoncla
If the whole point of getting the call right on the field then why would you penalize on an auto-review? Obviously if a team wants to review it they have a legitimate gripe because they think it's wrong. They aren't going to challenge just to be dicks, and burn a valuable timeout. Guarantee this is going to be an issue at some point this season. Guarantee it.
Hey remember this? Today was the day. Schwartz the first victim
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11-23-2012 , 12:45 AM
So all of us itt was aware of the rule in September, yet Schwartz still ****ed it up today? Seems like it's on him to me, just enjoy the lolz. Bonus points for perhaps the most egregious cases of field goal settling I've ever seen too, from both sides in that game.
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11-23-2012 , 03:08 AM
If Kubiak then decided that the ensuing kickoff from midfield would be the ideal time to onside kick, then recovered, it'd have been even more hilarious

Kubiak though
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11-23-2012 , 03:12 AM
Schwartz screwed up and admitted it, but the initial call was awful itself. It was pretty obvious he was down when watching live. Schwartz deserves plenty of blame, but the officials were utterly incompetent to even allow him to **** it up
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11-23-2012 , 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by BraveJayhawk
You don't wait to call timeout after nearly 25 seconds have ran off the game clock
better to call timeout and talk it over and get two plays you want.


Sure they should have called TO right away, but thats not that bad
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11-23-2012 , 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Dudd
So all of us itt was aware of the rule in September, yet Schwartz still ****ed it up today? Seems like it's on him to me, just enjoy the lolz. Bonus points for perhaps the most egregious cases of field goal settling I've ever seen too, from both sides in that game.
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"I knew the rule -- you can't challenge on a turnover or a scoring play -- but I was so mad that I overreacted," said Schwartz, whose temper got the best of him during a postgame handshake last year with San Francisco coach Jim Harbaugh. "I had the flag in my hand before he even scored because he was obviously down."
http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=321122008



oh, so you know the rule, but still threw the flag? well played
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11-23-2012 , 05:16 AM
He blind raged in the moment. Lost his head for a second, made a mistake, apologized.
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11-23-2012 , 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
He blind raged in the moment. Lost his head for a second, made a mistake, apologized.

And then he wonders why his team has approximately 200 yards in penalties every game



Time to bust out his cv
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