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09-07-2010 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Run Ricky Run
lol
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09-07-2010 , 03:47 PM
There's no way Champ was only thrown to 30ish times
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09-07-2010 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by theblueprint
Wk 1 vs. Andre Johnson: 2 catches for 24 yds
Wk 2 vs. Moss: 3 catches for 21 yds
Wk 3 vs. Justin Gage: 3 catches for 28 yds
Wk 4 vs. Colston: ZERO RECEPTIONS
Wk 5 vs. Ted Ginn: 2 catches for 57 yds and 1 TD
Wk 6 vs. TO: 1 catch for 11 yds
Wk 7 vs. Louis Murphy: 1 catch for 6 yds
Wk 8 vs. Ted Ginn: ZERO RECEPTIONS
Wk 10 vs. Mike Sims-Walker: ZERO RECEPTIONS
Wk 11 vs. Randy Moss: 4 catches for 29 yds and 1 TD
Wk 12 vs. Steve Smith: 1 catch for 5 yds
Wk 13 vs. TO: 3 catches for 31 yds
Wk 15 vs. Roddy White: 3 catches for 27 yds
Wk 16 vs. Reggie Wayne: ZERO RECEPTIONS
Wk 17 vs. Ocho Cinco: ZERO RECEPTIONS
The revis stats are clearly inaccurate.





I don't think anyone will argue those 2.



This 3rd catch Revis was actually covering him again, he just never turned after Wayne cut so he doesn't even look like hes covering him in the still shot.

I'm not going to dig through every game but if these aren't showing up in the tally then it seems pretty likely that there are plenty of others getting shorted too. Whoever came up with these stats is either blind or a serious homer.
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09-07-2010 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNoodleMan
The revis stats are clearly inaccurate.





I don't think anyone will argue those 2.



This 3rd catch Revis was actually covering him again, he just never turned after Wayne cut so he doesn't even look like hes covering him in the still shot.

I'm not going to dig through every game but if these aren't showing up in the tally then it seems pretty likely that there are plenty of others getting shorted too. Whoever came up with these stats is either blind or a serious homer.
That third photo is clearly a zone coverage and the catch cant be pinned on Rivas.

Last edited by arcdog; 09-07-2010 at 04:42 PM. Reason: Bulldog fan and Champ homer though obv.
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09-07-2010 , 04:41 PM
IIRC first two were offensive P.I. by Regguh and the 3rd was called back because of an illegal block in the back by that guy near Revis.
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09-07-2010 , 06:42 PM
clearly the ref's giving Revis the Jordan treatment to boost his stats.
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09-07-2010 , 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Walter White
Champ Bailey, because he is actually willing to tackle, among other reasons.
I don't watch very much NFL, but I've never seen Revis afraid to get physical. Cromartie on the other hand...

And 4 receptions allowed? That has to be a misleading stat somehow...just sick.
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09-07-2010 , 07:33 PM
or 2010 Dunta Robinson?
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09-07-2010 , 08:31 PM
i have the 2007 pro football prospectus and according to fo's game charters bailey was targeted 86 times in 2006 and 38% of those passes were successful (resulted in 45% of yards needed on a 1st down, 60% on 2nd, and 100% on 3rd and 4th). even if that is not exactly correct the 4 of 35 thing is clearly bull****. according to champ's wiki page it was something jaws said on a preseason mnf game.

Last edited by Phildo; 09-07-2010 at 08:36 PM.
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09-07-2010 , 08:34 PM
If true, major lol at some passing comment Jaws made years ago becoming NFL folklore.
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09-07-2010 , 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by PoseidonCubed
I don't watch very much NFL, but I've never seen Revis afraid to get physical. Cromartie on the other hand...

And 4 receptions allowed? That has to be a misleading stat somehow...just sick.
I think it's a lot sicker that he actually had 10 INTs and 4 passes allowed. For every pass he allows he makes 2.5 INTs lol-sick

Either way the numbers are obviously not correct
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09-07-2010 , 10:51 PM
it's also not true
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09-07-2010 , 10:51 PM
Quick edit wins
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09-08-2010 , 02:31 AM
when was the mnf game? maybe the stats were correct at the time
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09-08-2010 , 02:51 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champ_Bailey
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Also in 2006, Ron Jaworski stated during a MNF pre-season game against the San Francisco 49ers that Bailey only got tested 35 times and only four passes were completed over him, none for touchdowns.
no source cited.

it's not correct for the 05 season either fwiw. i have the 06 pfp too and they don't have total number of targets listed but they have bailey as the target on 20% of passes against the broncos with 42% of those passes being successful.
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09-08-2010 , 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by lolmitHE
don't want to hate on revis at all, but thrown at 35 times says so much.
it does say a lot, but not for the reasons you think at all.
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09-08-2010 , 10:52 AM
i think it's been explained the reason why revis was tested so much last year is he almost exclusively had 1 on 1 with the primary receiver for the other team and the Jets forced it such that the opposing team would still test revis while that isn't the normal case with other teams. the jets i believe would double the secondary receiver with a corner and a safety over the top.

i know the reason asomugha isn't tested very much it's b/c he plays on an island on 1 side of the field and he's significantly better than his teammates such that it's a waste of time to throw at him. he could obviously be the best CB in the league, but he isn't tested cause his secondary teammates are a joke and the team isn't finding a way to force the ball his way.
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09-08-2010 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by shipontilt
it does say a lot, but not for the reasons you think at all.
Probably, if true, it says that Denver mis-used Bailey criminally by having him always play one side and letting other teams simply shift their #1 WR to the other side and negating his impact.
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09-08-2010 , 11:23 AM
A more interesting question is, how does the fact that Bailey played in a worse defense than Revis affect things?
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09-08-2010 , 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Etats360
A more interesting question is, how does the fact that Bailey played in a worse defense than Revis affect things?
Makes it more impressive: defense will be on the field longer, meaning more offensive snaps against. More opportunities for Bailey to get beat.

Makes it less impressive: defense has holes in various places, and there's no need to attack Bailey. Puts up nice stats in large part due to opponent's just having their way on the other side of the field.

I think it would make it less impressive.
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09-08-2010 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Etats360
A more interesting question is, how does the fact that Bailey played in a worse defense than Revis affect things?
very little, if at all imo
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