Bettman Lockout III Thread (aka NHL Offseason: Now & Forever)

[SenorMuresano]

Just got my internet back. LOLOLOLLOLOLOO FLYERS HOLY **** SCHENN IS SO BAD

[El Rata]

Look on the bright side cwice, at least the Flyers didn't get Jack Johnson.

[sylar]

Originally Posted by El Rata

Look on the bright side cwice, at least the Flyers didn't get Jack Johnson.

Spoiler:

or dion phaneuf

[Henrik Sedin]

Originally Posted by sylar

Spoiler:

or dion phaneuf

Spoiler:

Dion Phaneuf was traded to Toronto by Calgary with Fredrik Sjostrom and Keith Aulie for Matt Stajan, Niklas Hagman, Jamal Mayers and Ian White, January 31, 2010.

Spoiler:

On November 17, 2010, Ian White was traded along with Brett Sutter to the Carolina Hurricanes in exchange for Tom Kostopoulos and Anton Babchuk.

Spoiler:

On June 22, 2012, the Calgary Flames traded down to pick a Quebec high school player in the 1st round

[Triumph36]

Originally Posted by Henrik Sedin

Spoiler:

Dion Phaneuf was traded to Toronto by Calgary with Fredrik Sjostrom and Keith Aulie for Matt Stajan, Niklas Hagman, Jamal Mayers and Ian White, January 31, 2010.

Spoiler:

On November 17, 2010, Ian White was traded along with Brett Sutter to the Carolina Hurricanes in exchange for Tom Kostopoulos and Anton Babchuk.

Spoiler:

On June 22, 2012, the Calgary Flames traded down to pick a Quebec high school player in the 1st round

undertitle: salt in the wound

[Hammerhands]

Next Jet, Kosmachuck fell pretty far.

Edmonton drafts Zharkov, sounds like a new Kurri from the highlight package and description. This is going to be another long decade.

Originally Posted by bigdottawa

The Monster era is over in Toronto.

Rights traded to Winnipeg for a conditional 7th rounder next year.

What's the dollar value of a conditional 7th pick? Did they send Burke a compliment? We are now goalie-rich, with a starter and as many as 3 backups, all but one are UFAs. And then they draft 2 more goalies. There aren't enough nets in the system.

I was going to multi-comment the draft, but I didn't last through the long gap between picks.

I'm not sure why they're not signing Fehr. He convalesced here for a year and just started to show something. Could they have offered him less than his current salary without letting him go UFA first?

Ryan Olsen is a Saskatoon Blade, another centre, most highlights are fisticuffs.

[end of part one]

[Hammerhands]

And now here we are before Free Agency and I feel like they may be preparing to tear the hearts out of the fans. We have lots of smaller natural centres, but I can almost sketch a proper winning [.500+] team.

Here's a team I would like to watch, with some misgivings noted.

Ladd-Little-Wheeler/Fehr/Wellwood/?
Kane-Scheifele-Wheeler/Wellwood/?
Burmistrov-Antropov-Fehr/Wellwood/Stapleton/?
Glass-Slater-Thorburn

Enstrom-Byfuglian
?/Hainsey-Bogosian
Stuart-Flood/Hainsey/Clitsome

Pavelec/Monster/Mason/Pasquale/Whatever

Can someone CapGeek that? Thanks in advance.

The first line is oddly effective with Wheeler, but I still don't know why. Ladd and Byfuglian always look like they need skate sharpening and skating lessons to me. But if it works, it works.

If Scheifele can make the team this year I would like to see Wheeler and Kane flying around for him, but can anyone else make the first line go? I had stratospheric hopes for Fehr, and I thought Ladd-Little-Fehr would be the second line.

I like big Nik, and Antropov-Burmistrov early in the season gave me flashes of Zhamnov-Korolov. That alley-oop play, why did they ever break them up? Burmistrov showed he could be an effective 2-way centre, I guess that's why, but I would rather have three scoring lines. Of course, Burmistrov would be a very cool look on the off-wing with Scheifele-Kane. And my real plan is for Ladd-Little to be the 3rd line.

GST on the fourth line is exactly right.

Enstrom looked like the Pocket-Teppo at times, but teams showed how he can be overpowered near the post-season. Byfuglian will be [a lumbering] Coffey in a few years, that's my prediction.

Can you play off-wing on defense, because I have gained so much respect for Hainsey and Stuart, they would be a brutal, terrifying pair, if Bogo can now be trusted and we can get someone coming up or someone good enough to bring us to the cap floor to slot in beside him at 3.

I hope Gabe from Behind the Net is right about goalies.

[Which will bring us to part 3]

[Henrik Sedin]

something like that?

[cwicemvp12]

Dustin Leed @D_LEED
Matt Carle not going anywhere. Will likely finish deal in days and be announced on July 1. Holmgren wants him, Carle wants to stay. #Flyers

He'd better be right.

[hotwings18]

Carle to the Wangzzz?

[cwicemvp12]

Originally Posted by El Rata

Look on the bright side cwice, at least the Flyers didn't get Jack Johnson.

True. I'm left to hope Schenn can find himself next year. He can definitely be worth that contract with a little improvement, but the last two years haven't been promising.

[Hammerhands]

Forget part three for now.

[Hammerhands]

Originally Posted by Henrik Sedin

something like that?

Awesome, thanks again.

What would you do with 16 million dollars!

I forgot to slot in Mittens. He goes beside Antropov. It took some time for him to show signs.

And now there's not much room for Fehr. But if he fills in for Wellwood, then Wellwood can cover any injury.

[cwicemvp12]

With Carle at $5.2M, Voracek at $3.25, and Shelley and Pronger's contracts gone the Flyers have about $9M to sign a backup goalie and a top-6 forward or two.

[marek_heinz]

The JVR trade was painful from a Flyers perspective, but objectively JVR is oft-injured and Flyers have ridic depth on offense. But damn, I dont like Schenn, hopefully he pulls it together

edit - btw what about Kovar as backup? Not sure about his contract situation, but he was a revelation this year, culminating in being starter for CZE in WCH