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Best Young NFL QB? (It's MAHOMES)

View Poll Results: BEST "Rookie" QB upcoming 2013 season? (RG3, Wilson, Luck, Kaepernick)

Robert Griffin III

21 8.90%

Russell Wilson

64 27.12%

Colin Kaepernick

42 17.80%

Andrew Luck

109 46.19%

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07-13-2013 , 08:54 PM

#176

Carpal \'Tunnel

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SortByYahooProjections

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07-13-2013 , 08:57 PM

#177

iggymcfly

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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen

looking at the colts schedule i think denver, sf, seattle and 1 of the texans games will be losses

the other 12:

v oakland
v miami
@ jacksonville
@ san diego
v st. louis
@ tennessee
@ arizona
v tennessee
v houston
@ kansas city
v jacksonville

they could (should) go 12-4 but accounting for 1 inexplicable loss you have 11-5

Colts will definitely be dogs @ San Diego, @ Tennessee, and vs. Houston. Saying they should win 11/12 of those is just crazy. Their O/U by Pinnacle is 8.5 wins and those numbers are always shaded toward the over, especially on a public team like the Colts. I say their most likely result this year is 7 or 8 wins.

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07-13-2013 , 08:59 PM

#178

Searix

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Originally Posted by Richard Tanner

SortByYahooProjections

You have a point obviously, just showing that i don't see anyone better than a "meh" on the Colts beyond Reggie Wayne (who's getting older)

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Originally Posted by iggymcfly

This too though

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07-13-2013 , 09:01 PM

#179

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The problem with those projections is they're trying to predict a TON of 2nd year guys. Fleener, Allen, and Hilton all should be major parts of the new, West Coast, system Hamilton is bringing in plus they're starting their second year so an improvement is assumed (doesn't always work, but we still assume they'll get better).

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07-13-2013 , 09:01 PM

#180

Searix

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Just looked up iggy's pinnacle stats: http://www.pinnaclesports.com/Contes...ins/Lines.aspx

Kansas City Chiefs o/u 7.5 wins

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07-13-2013 , 09:02 PM

#181

Carpal \'Tunnel

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Alex Smith bro

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07-13-2013 , 09:03 PM

#182

Searix

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Originally Posted by Richard Tanner

I may be jaded from the Rams' carousel coaching of Sam Bradford, but new coaches seem to only f' up rookie QBs

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Originally Posted by Richard Tanner

Alex Smith bro

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07-13-2013 , 09:55 PM

#183

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If it makes you feel any better Searix, the Colts "new" OC was Luck and Fleener's OC at Stanford

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07-13-2013 , 10:07 PM

#184

StoppedRainingMen

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colts hired greg roman? figured that'd be a bigger deal if so

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07-13-2013 , 10:14 PM

#185

Searix

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Originally Posted by Richard Tanner

If it makes you feel any better Searix, the Colts "new" OC was Luck and Fleener's OC at Stanford

did not know that, interesting

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07-14-2013 , 03:50 PM

#186

Palo

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Originally Posted by iggymcfly

Being smart > being dumb when you're a head coach. Chip Kelly's the only coach in the NFL that's not dumb. This will give him a huge tactical advantage.

More likely the other idiotic coaches will drag him down to their level and beat him up with experience.

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07-14-2013 , 06:21 PM

#187

neg3sd

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JAWS rated the four guys in order.

Luck #10
Kaep #11
Wilson #12
RGIII #13

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07-14-2013 , 06:23 PM

#188

brandoncla

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Originally Posted by Palo

More likely the other idiotic coaches will drag him down to their level and beat him up with experience.

Meh. The lack of really really cool uniform combos is a killer.

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07-14-2013 , 07:26 PM

#189

StewiesMinion

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Originally Posted by 00cooler00

you forgot:

really are. efficiency numbers are below luck's, but not by a lot.

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07-14-2013 , 10:55 PM

#190

iggymcfly

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Originally Posted by neg3sd

JAWS rated the four guys in order.

Luck #10
Kaep #11
Wilson #12
RGIII #13

It's funny how someone who understands strategy so well can be so absolutely terrible at things like ranking QBs. Guarantee you he had LOLFlacco in the Top 5 somewhere. As if he's good enough to sniff Russell Wilson's jock.

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07-14-2013 , 11:05 PM

#191

TheTenderVigilante

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jaworski is so awful at assessing today's qbs that you'd think he thinks chip kelly is the best coach in the nfl

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07-14-2013 , 11:25 PM

#192

iggymcfly

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I don't know why people are so resistant to Chip Kelly being the best coach in the NFL. It's like if only one poker player in a tournament understood the concept of light 3-betting, and people were like "pssh, he hasn't even been well known enough to play 30-man invitational ESPN events until this year".

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07-14-2013 , 11:39 PM

#193

TalkingDonkey

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yeah those jaws rankings seem really bad

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Originally Posted by iggymcfly

Guarantee you he had LOLFlacco in the Top 5 somewhere.

flacco is in his top 5 gay ron teed. big rape being above kap/rustle/RG3/luck is pretty bad too, jaws is not good at this

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07-14-2013 , 11:47 PM

#194

TheTenderVigilante

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jaworski ranks the rookies lower because they're rookies

people ITT automatically rank the other 3 below luck because luck comes with disproportionate hype and the other 3 don't

not really that much of a difference

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07-15-2013 , 12:37 AM

#195

A-Rod's Cousin

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Why does anyone listen to Jaworski? He's pretty awful. When I saw JAWS in all caps I thought it was an acronym for a reputable NFL think tank. Not Ron "I really love this young quarterback!" Jaworski.

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07-15-2013 , 12:54 AM

#196

cash mahne

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Kaepernick threw the ball 20 yards or more in the air more than any other QB (15.1%).

He completed over 60% of those passes which led the NFL as well. The sample size could be better, but Kaep might have the highest ceiling of any of these QBs.