Absolutely. Still haven't decided on it yet or if I should begin the rundown again with the final players (I think I will though it might become a late-show).

Dost is one of those where it's tempting to wait and see him at Wolfsburg since I don't have any real impression of him at this point. Of course I've already included Narsingh who felt like a more safe bet. Who would people in the know say is better? And what about Dost vs Wolfsvinkel (maybe Guidetti too)?

No he shouldn't

There are at least 3 better strikers in Eredivisie who aren't on the list - and none of them should be in this list

I've obviously never seen him play

Elmander being dropped from the list would be a crime against all that is good and holy in this world imo.

Heerenveen had a very good offense last year with a few good players.

The best one is apparently also the least known. Oussama Aissadi. Left winger with unreal technique/dribbling skills who is very close to a transfer to Galatasaray.

The 2nd best was right winger Luciano Narsingh. Very fast and a very good cross. Both Ajax and Psv are interested and made offers but Heerenveen wants more money.

Bas Dost tapped in all the goals from the crosses. He's tall, has good positional awareness and remains calm in front of the goal but other than that he is really nothing special. I'm not sure how Wolfsburg will line up but he is very dependent on the crosses he gets.

Guidetti/Sigthorsson/Bony are all clearly better.

So there is a pretty big historical bias then right?

Anyway, I don't want to complain, I just wanted to see how you come up with these rankings is all. Clowntable's method would be interesting to rank positional importance.

Yeah and I would also say the first 300 list suffered from a lack of good foundation in the pretty bad original 200 list where I just hadn't nominated enough players.

I've been close to changing it to positional rankings many times (and there is plenty of postion vs position discussion at various points itt) since I think it would be so much easier but all in all I think less (potentially) interesting and of course I end up with a positional ranking in-directly here anyway.

25 18 11 Luis Suarez - Uruguay - Liverpool
24 31 25 Gonzalo Higuain - Argentina - Real Madrid
23 29 49: Radamel Falcao - Colombia - FC Porto
22 28 47 Karim Benzema - France - Real Madrid
21 21 16 Wesley Sneijder - Netherlands - Inter
20 26 30 Edinson Cavani - Uruguay - Napoli

Here we go. 4 forwards and Wesley Sneijder.

I continue to rate Suarez very highly and I think the Liverpool coaching change should be a great improvement for him. For his eventual writeup (and when it comes to this particular player everything tend to either become an attack or a defense) I definitely plan on brining up the ZM article on him doing (or having to do) too much and some posts I remember making about him in the English football thread.

I still think he can go even higher up the list but as of now it's clear Higuain with all his exquisite finesse, often scoring goals like it's the easiest thing in the world should be ahead of him.

I kept changing my mind about Falcao and Benzema. They also have a good case against Sneijder in a more tricky comparison but the number 10 skillset by the narrowest of margins ftw, at least for the time being.

Overall I just think Benzema has more tools than Falcao and since he had his best ever season finally pulling all those together playing at a very high level consistently, even definitively moving ahead in the pecking order over another top class striker Higuain at Madrid, he just comes out on top.

Falcao is an expert striker though, maybe the best in the world in the box right now and even though his lack of speed (especially with the ball) can limit him in more space wide or further back, he very often makes the best of situations with exemplary teamwork and link up play indirectly setting up something dangerous for himself later. All in all Benzema can't afford many slips like the Euros if he wants to stay ahead.

Cavani almost couldn't be more complete. He is a godly forward. Poacher, target man, wide forward, support striker all in one, whatever you want, which means one great arsenal of physical, technical and mental tools.

Interesting thread. What jumped out at me was Cazorla being that high. Clearly he's a very good player but looking at some of the guys behind him in the list it seems pretty debatable having him up there.

If Thiago Alcantara hadn't have ran as bad as to be reserve to two of the greatest midfielders of all time he'd have surely been a lot higher up a list of this type by now.

Some elite central midfielders and elite individual attacking difference-makers beating the strikers.

19 17 15 Luka Modric - Croatia -Tottenham
18 19 22 Yaya Tore - Ivory Coast - Manchester City
17 15 18 Franck Ribery - France - Bayern München
16 13 31 Bastian Schweinsteiger - Germany - Bayern München
15 12 10 Xabi Alonso - Spain - Real Madrid
14 14 43 Eden Hazard - Belgium - Lille/Chelsea

With Schweinsteiger it's definitely a good example of this not being a player of the year type of list. This was far from his best season, dealing with injuries hurting his form, but it's still not enough to drag down my estimation of him as a player compared to those behind. Even if they have better seasons.

Toure ahead of Modric seems reasonable. Part of it will inevitably be the point differential between City and Spurs which of course is much larger than the difference between the players (hence they're one place apart!) but one colossus was actually instrumental leading his team to a league title where one gollum at times seemed to have a less precious time with his and overall along with that particular club an up and down season.

Toure's fantastic marauding going forward is clearly his argument against people like Schweinsteiger and Alonso, but overall when talking midfield play his occasional overall sloppiness, his worst you could say, comes up short against the consistent excellence Schweinsteiger and Alonso influence on their teams.

Some will never put Alonso this high but his optimal constructiveness in every single thing he does, with or without the ball, in my mind puts him ahead of most.

Ribery of course is a legend in this thread. Sometimes his selfishness will frustrate me but overall it's clearly a positive and when in form, like he was this season, he is just having his way with the Bundesliga. 4 dribbles a game he was averaging...

Speaking of having his way with a league, apart from those two obvious ones down in Spain, there can't have been a better example of it than what Hazard continued to do in France. So much so that (with Ribery in mind) I'll just go ahead and post his scorepoints: 20 goals and 16 assists in 35 starts wut wut!

I can't wait to see what the next step brings in England.

Busquets too low. Alonso too high.

I might overrate hazard, but I basically think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Care to apply logic to this?

Busquets is better than some of those ahead of him and Alonso is worse than some of those behind him?

Busquets should be like 30ish and Alonso should be like 20ish probably

Who is he better than, and why? Who is xabi worse than and why?