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08-04-2017 , 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Moneyball16
Solid strat thing about having the most money like Mr Jones is just being able to have certainty coming into the last 2 picks.

I'm trying to map out my last 2 and it's hard to know who'll you be left with and you could waste millions.
Yeah I considered leaving Melooooooooo for the last round but I blinked bc I didn't want to have 25 milly sitting on the next to last pick
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08-04-2017 , 03:59 AM
I'm on dad duty at night so I sleep during the day. I am Aussie btw.

I'll take casspi at 1.47. Shoots 3s. That's it.

Last edited by RebeccaTwigley; 08-04-2017 at 04:28 AM.
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08-04-2017 , 04:04 AM
Lol I thought we were talking literally RT, who's SN used to be a full name.

I'm a moron.
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08-04-2017 , 08:04 AM
I was hesitating between Hield and Casspi for my pick. Wanted a wing who can shoot off the bench. But with Hield being young and his second part of the season of the kings where he posted 15 PER, 60% TS and 43% from 3 is too tempting not to gamble on him.

Didn't Casspi cost more btw? I see 2.1M
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08-04-2017 , 08:07 AM
salary hit is 1.47, he actually gets paid 2.1. im 99% sure we are doing salary hit (its what ive been going off anyway)
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08-04-2017 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Seadood228
I didn't like it more because it's ludicrous. You would think a requirement of being a good player is that your team has to actually play well when you're on the court, but as of now DDR has had 7/8 of his seasons end with them being better with him on the court while Millsap's teams have been vastly better when he's out there. One year of this can be considered an outlier, but for this to happy 85% of the time is pretty telling, and it tells me that DDR is not that good.

RPM is not perfect, but it takes the +- numbers and actually tries to make sense of them, and how your team performs when you're on the court is literally the only stat that should matter, it's just difficult to quantify with 100% accuracy.
reasonable argument, im not saying he was better last year, but ill take ddr age 28 season over paul millsap age 32 season. ddr has improved an aspect of his game every season, numbers up across the board last year. it might be a #hottake but managing .550 TS% on 34 USG is sexy to me, room to get even better from there if the raptors play with a bit more spacing this year.

i think it's a pretty reasonable take even with millsap being an impactful defender and demar being terrible.

also you guys really love rpm. idk.

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Originally Posted by RebeccaTwigley
salary hit is 1.47, he actually gets paid 2.1. im 99% sure we are doing salary hit (its what ive been going off anyway)
yes, whatever is on the sporttrac sheet.

casspi is a great, great pick. injured last year but basically does nothing poorly except dribble AND is one of the best 3 point shooters in the league. this is another type of guy that i think should have been taken over gallo, fwiw.
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08-04-2017 , 11:13 AM
Now I know you is trolling.

I do like Omri Casspi though, especially in this spot.
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08-04-2017 , 11:40 AM
I'll bite...

...how is a career 36.7% 3 point shooter on 2.6 3s per game one of the best 3 point shooters in the league?
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08-04-2017 , 11:48 AM
I gave Casspi as my #2 choice when I pm'ed dood mainly because he's just so cheap and 3point shooting alone may justify that price but I have to say as I listen Dunc'd on quite a lot, Nate and Danny have made a habit of slurping Casspi as some kind of elite shooter and solid defender guy that everybody is missing out on but looking at his numbers he is very underwhelming. Also no teams seem to want to have him for some reasons so I dunno what's up with him.

Totally wouldn't be shocked if he shot 45% just sitting in the corner for the warriors though
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08-04-2017 , 11:53 AM
Also, in weird Casspi can't possibly be one of the best 3 point shooters in the league news...he shot 58.6% on free throws last year & is a career 67.5% free throw shooter.

Still obviously good value at this point on that contract.
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08-04-2017 , 12:09 PM
The part I like is that "he does nothing poorly except dribbling." I mean it's pretty much true, but there are a bunch of skills that are very important to being a good basketball player, and dribbling is required for those.

Also with the 3 point shooting, it should be noted that he has a glacial windup and really slow gather, similar to Kyle Anderson and Joe Ingles, except his release point is even lower. That's probably the reason why is attempt rate is really low.
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08-04-2017 , 12:09 PM
ya, stand in the corner for 15mins a game sounds like a plan
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08-04-2017 , 12:14 PM
He's a great cutter and has a good IQ. He may be the less-healthy version of Joe Ingles tbh. It was definitely great value.
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08-04-2017 , 12:56 PM
Casspi is just a random guy who has insanely deep range (can anyone dig up that "3 point distance" stat from I think two seasons ago which showed Steph as #1 obv, but also Covington in the top 5? I can't find it, but it was pretty cool, I bet Casspi is on that list somewhere) and can make a 3 (you'll have to throw out last season where he got yanked around and the sample is tiny) at high 30s % on moderately difficult attempts (look at some of the offenses he's played with).

He tries on D, he cuts a bit, he can straight line drive dunk every once in a while, he rebounds adequately for his position. He's totally just a guy who provides spacing bc he gets a ****ton of respect from 3-- but again he's the min, there were a ****ton of "just a guys" already taken (I'd argue Otto Porter perhaps among them) and at least Casspi is 1.4m

Also dribbling is an NBA skill for 2-2.5 players on your team, and totally unncessary for the rest
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08-04-2017 , 12:59 PM
Is it on King of Diamonds? I have moneyball's pick btw.
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08-04-2017 , 01:00 PM
Obviously way too late for this now, but I think double-picks in the 7th/8th round would have been a cool feature to allow teams to optimize their remaining cap space as much as possible.
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08-04-2017 , 01:04 PM
nah I say we still do it...
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08-04-2017 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Seadood228
Is it on King of Diamonds? I have moneyball's pick btw.
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Originally Posted by King~of~Diamonds
I want Jonathon Simmons for 6.3
Then vinivici picked and you did for cina. Isn't it on ae?
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08-04-2017 , 01:15 PM
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Casspi is just a random guy who has insanely deep range (can anyone dig up that "3 point distance" stat from I think two seasons ago which showed Steph as #1 obv, but also Covington in the top 5? I can't find it, but it was pretty cool, I bet Casspi is on that list somewhere) and can make a 3 (you'll have to throw out last season where he got yanked around and the sample is tiny) at high 30s % on moderately difficult attempts (look at some of the offenses he's played with).

He tries on D, he cuts a bit, he can straight line drive dunk every once in a while, he rebounds adequately for his position. He's totally just a guy who provides spacing bc he gets a ****ton of respect from 3-- but again he's the min, there were a ****ton of "just a guys" already taken (I'd argue Otto Porter perhaps among them) and at least Casspi is 1.4m

Also dribbling is an NBA skill for 2-2.5 players on your team, and totally unncessary for the rest
porters def not JAG. lowest turnover %age in the league last year (4.9%), which obv is somewhat role dependent, but he'll maintain that one in my construction. 7th in the league in true shooting%age. guys ahead are 4 bigs, durant, and korver who's a defensive sieve. positive RPM on both sides of the court. plays 32 mpg on an overachieving 49 win team. 40 mpg in the playoff non blowouts.

don't think its fair to give porter JAG status, but then critique Bookers advanced/efficiency stats when he pops in highlights. obviously everyone beyond the first 40 picks or so is going to have warts in one way or another.
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08-04-2017 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JMurder3
Obviously way too late for this now, but I think double-picks in the 7th/8th round would have been a cool feature to allow teams to optimize their remaining cap space as much as possible.
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nah I say we still do it...
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08-04-2017 , 01:22 PM
so we're waiting on cina?
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08-04-2017 , 01:25 PM
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porters def not JAG. lowest turnover %age in the league last year (4.9%), which obv is somewhat role dependent, but he'll maintain that one in my construction. 7th in the league in true shooting%age. guys ahead are 4 bigs, durant, and korver who's a defensive sieve. positive RPM on both sides of the court. plays 32 mpg on an overachieving 49 win team. 40 mpg in the playoff non blowouts.

don't think its fair to give porter JAG status, but then critique Bookers advanced/efficiency stats when he pops in highlights. obviously everyone beyond the first 40 picks or so is going to have warts in one way or another.
he might be better than just a guy, but it's unclear he could effectively take advantage of iso post ups on a certain 5'7 guard in the playoffs, he definitely can't take guys off the dribble (nor should he be trying). he's just a 3 point shooter and a defender, good at the first thing and unclear if he's good at the second (seems hard for him to be bad, but i know ppl that think he kinda sucked on that end). he made shots way above his paygrade this year, if he does it again it'll be impressive.
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08-04-2017 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by aejones
so we're waiting on cina?
no, it's on you

dood picked for him

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Originally Posted by Seadood228
Cinarocket takes the NeoSteph, Buddy Hield.

On phone don't have salary info handy but I know RT can't afford him.
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08-04-2017 , 01:33 PM
I have Moneyball's pick as well so it'll be on the other ball soon.

I should probably update the spreadshet.
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08-04-2017 , 01:40 PM
Grate idea for next year
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