Good reading through the thread today.

I wonder if being the top RPM guy on a team has more value than just being a high RPM guy (on a team full of them). Just at a glance guys who seem overrated by RPM play on really good teams and in very specific roles that cover for their weaknesses.

I want Jonathon Simmons for 6.3

Good point. Shoot your shot Vivi, I have cinarockets pick. If you don't pick for a bit I'll pick for you.

I'll take CJ Miles for $7,936,508. Dudes a sniper. Nice to get a vet who still has a lot in the tank for a reasonable contract.

I don't see why we're wrapping.

This seems laughable.

We've had pages where drafting Bron is all that matters is the notion repeatedly stated, wtf. I would've addressed this preemptively but the op was ABBB, only logical to think it would repeat.

Just trying to take as many raptors as possible w/o it being DDR

Cinarocket takes the NeoSteph, Buddy Hield.

On phone don't have salary info handy but I know RT can't afford him.

i would assume from RT's username (very minor celebrity in australia) that he is aussie, and it's like midday here

It's a member of his family.

Dodger sorry for the wrap, late guys have the advantage in this anyway both in draft spot and apparently ball knowledge.

Disqoteque going with the all-western conference strategy.

In all, about 55% of picks have come from the west

I briefly considered buddy seems like his 2nd half was good enough to warrant a flyer here

Hield would be better playing off-ball with Dame and Towns than he'll ever be on Sacramento

fyi, just my opinion i suppose: i think lou and will barton were top 10% picks, i think DDR not getting drafted is a massive indictment on the strength of this draft: when ~5 teams only had 25m left, those teams should have been prioritizing (to the point of making slightly bad picks, though tbh it's so flat you could have done it) saving >25m in order to have the chance to get him for "free" (not using your other resource, draft slot).

i did that, i just messed up the math.

both lou and will barton should have gone in the fourth round or so.

i think rookies are never, ever good. ever. probably a dozen who were positive players in the last decade? roughly. i think maybe like 5ish of them should have been drafted in late rounds. taking a flier on one seems reasonable, but with two it seems near impossible that your bench isn't heinous

correct. strongly correct.

i won't say much about fit, or direction, but i feel fairly confident that DDR will provide more value than paul millsap next season. and the chances it's a LOT more is pretty likely-- whereas there's almost no scenario that PM performs MUCH better than DDR. in this format, i take DDR (in a vacuum).

and yes i know it's depressing to draft him and he's way worse than PM vs the top 5% of teams or whatever so i guess it depends on your goals.

solid pick

I think fit is way overrated on here

I think a lot of people underestimate a good/star players' ability to adapt to their team's strengths. Stuff like perimeter shooting / Defense / rim protection are things that can't really be learned obv so would agree in some contexts

Yeah who was the last non top 8 (being generous to Mitchell and Kozma) to perform at a level of a positive contributor to a playoff series winning team

I thought Dirk was good value. But not on the team with nurkic and ibaka

I don't think fit is overrated at all, I think fit gets mentioned because it's easy to get lost in #'s.

GSW is an example of perfect fit. Someone like Russ is nearly antithetical with title winning fit, he can fit on a team - but it will have a ceiling.

There is zero evidence and zero chance that DDR performs better than Paul Millsap in this draft, the real NBA, or any other planet. That's just nonsense--there is literally nothing to back that up and everything that points to the contrary.

Sorry but that is absolutely laughable.

I didn't think you'd like it, but we'll have to agree to disagree

Where's the best place to find historical minutes by position data (for free)

Clarification: this is irl.

Not here.

Solid strat thing about having the most money like Mr Jones is just being able to have certainty coming into the last 2 picks.

I'm trying to map out my last 2 and it's hard to know who'll you be left with and you could waste millions.

I didn't like it more because it's ludicrous. You would think a requirement of being a good player is that your team has to actually play well when you're on the court, but as of now DDR has had 7/8 of his seasons end with them being better with him on the court while Millsap's teams have been vastly better when he's out there. One year of this can be considered an outlier, but for this to happy 85% of the time is pretty telling, and it tells me that DDR is not that good.

RPM is not perfect, but it takes the +- numbers and actually tries to make sense of them, and how your team performs when you're on the court is literally the only stat that should matter, it's just difficult to quantify with 100% accuracy.

This exactly. The Lebron Heat were not a perfect fit, and they got decimated by two less talented teams that were. Talent is the most important, but without fit a lot of that talent becomes either wasted or redundant.