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Old 08-20-2007, 01:36 AM   #301
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Re: PokerTracker: The Next Generation (NEW SOFTWARE DISCUSSION)

In the Layout Manager for the HUD make one seat the main seat and then have a "copy to all seats" function.
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the database better ATLEAST be in 3rd normal form
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also in hud toggling between overall stats and seat specific stats, like switching between btn stats and average stats with one mouse click would be insanely hawt.

I'd pay top dollar for that.
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you will be able to view your old data in PT3


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This is the key point that I didn't understand from your previous posts.

That resolves my concern.

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What about if PT3 could import all your existing hands overnight while you sleep?
If it would do this by extracting them from the existing PT2 hhdb's this would be super!

Doing it from histories exported from PT2 would be acceptable, although I'm not sure how fast PT2 can do the exports, as I've never exported a large number of hands. Doing it from archived copies of the original HH files creates possible problems in reconciling any missing/error hands in the originals that were not resolved and saved with the originals.

One potential problem with importing previous HH's is dealing with the numerous changes the sites have made to the format over time.
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:11 PM   #305
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In the Layout Manager for the HUD make one seat the main seat and then have a "copy to all seats" function.
This already exists in PokerAce Hud. It's the "Duplicate Player Seat" feature.
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:15 PM   #306
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you will be able to view your old data in PT3


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This is the key point that I didn't understand from your previous posts.

That resolves my concern.

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What about if PT3 could import all your existing hands overnight while you sleep?
If it would do this by extracting them from the existing PT2 hhdb's this would be super!

Doing it from histories exported from PT2 would be acceptable, although I'm not sure how fast PT2 can do the exports, as I've never exported a large number of hands. Doing it from archived copies of the original HH files creates possible problems in reconciling any missing/error hands in the originals that were not resolved and saved with the originals.
The plan is to have the conversion between PT2 and PT3 be as painless and simple as possible. Basically, you launch PT3 for the first time, it searches for PT2 databases, asks you if you want to convert them, then goes to town. You let it run for a few hours (if you have large databases), then come back to a complete PT3 database.

The only downfall is if you have observed hands without the hand histories, these won't be accessible to PT3. PT2 simply does not store enough information to reproduce the data PT3 will need.
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:18 PM   #307
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Another status update. PT3 now has the ability to filter just as much as the newer competition. If you want to see hands where you flopped bottom set, you can. If you want to see hands where you flopped a flush draw but missed it, you can. The filter system is extremely powerful and eventually will have the ability to allow you to create custom filters.
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The only downfall is if you have observed hands without the hand histories, these won't be accessible to PT3.
When you say "pt3" does this mean "new pt + new pa" or just "new pt"? Because if it's the latter all I care about w/pt2-era observeds dbs (w/no hh) is that new pa can still aggregate stats from them for online play. Or at least that I can run a pt2-era pa alongside new pa while online.

Obviously once I switch to pt3 I'll be starting new observeds dbs and let the old ones go stale but in the time it takes to gather new pt3-style data I don't want existing multi-million-hand observeds dbs (that have no hh) obsoleted the instant I start using pt3.
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It's not clear yet what's going to happen with PA Hud regarding reading from both PT2 and PT3 databases at once.
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Old 08-20-2007, 03:45 PM   #310
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Re: PokerTracker: The Next Generation (NEW SOFTWARE DISCUSSION)

Not sure if this is the best palce for the question, but I am just getting ready to purchase a copy of poker tracking software and have been reviewing the various threads on the matter for a while.

My main question is if I buy the latest version of PokerTracker this week, will I get an automatic upgrade?

As you can imagine, I don't have a strong desire to pay today and then again in a couple of months.

If there is a better place to post this question, please point me in that direction.

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The upgrade fee will depend on the date that PT3 is released compared to your purchase date. If you buy PT2 today and PT3 is released for sale in 30 days, you likely won't have to pay anything to get PT3. If you buy within 3 months of release, you'll pay less than if you buy within 6 months of release.

I should mention that the upgrade prices have not been set, but this should give you a good idea of our plan.
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It's not clear yet what's going to happen with PA Hud regarding reading from both PT2 and PT3 databases at once.
Is there enough data in my existing pa cache to give me villain stats online where new pa could do an initial read from it when installed/started the first time?

Obviously I don't know if that's the same amount of work as what you might have in mind but I could create a new cache w/all the db data I wanted just before using new pt/pa then wouldn't have any on-going use for those old dbs.
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Obviously once I switch to pt3 I'll be starting new observeds dbs and let the old ones go stale but in the time it takes to gather new pt3-style data I don't want existing multi-million-hand observeds dbs (that have no hh) obsoleted the instant I start using pt3.

Obvious solution here: Start saving HH for your observed DBs NOW! PT3 is at least a couple months away it would seem, by that time observed DBs will be stale and of little use already, right?
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Change filters and DBs for HUD without having to rebuild a cache. PLEASE
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In the Layout Manager for the HUD make one seat the main seat and then have a "copy to all seats" function.
This already exists in PokerAce Hud. It's the "Duplicate Player Seat" feature.
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