this is my current mod that I made with some graphics from barnuthin's VT theme

Thank goodness we can't see what tournament you were playing.

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^i^95

liutenant, are u gonna share that theme with us?

http://rapidshare.com/files/94421021/Gray.rar.html

how do i cahnge the chips like above? did he ever tell u how/where to get it fozzy?

Foz, I bought your hyper clone theme and installed into the poker stars dir4ector..its showing up in my xthemes folder but when i log on it ndoesnt show up in themes options

Had that happen the other day - I will check the download file.

Here are 2 easy ways to fix it, try one or the other:

BRB to finish this.....

*Back

OOOOPS - LOL EDIT

DID you get this from PSThemes and not from TiltBuster???





If you still have problems AIM/MSN me (in my profile) and we can use desktop sharing and I can get them working for you right away.

Foz

This is the code you need to save to your xthemes.ini

I apologize for the confusion. Having 2 sites up and running can be confusing.

Proper INI code for the Hyperclone theme from psthemes


Sorry about all that confusion.

Please AIM/MSN me if I completely confused you.

Can you quickly explain what makes a theme bet pot compatible or not?

Btw fozzy, thanks for the links. His black theme in the first link isn't too bad. I guess it's as close as we can get to a non-avatar black/minimal theme without avatars.

I could explain - but I would rather have dave explain - to make sure I understand.

I will PM him a link to your post.

lmao, fozzy doesn't understand it either, neither do I. one thing i don't get is why does the betpot script need hypersimple themes or some sort and the pokerpad works fine with any theme i choose. I prefer pokerpad over betpot, gui makes it so much easy.

I understand it - to the best of my trial-n-error over the past 6 months making stars mods. I was just hoping for a complete, detailed list of anything that can interfere - from _dave_. The biggest thing is the color of Slider and Slider Grip, without a doubt. The Check/Bet/Fold buttons can also cause issues, I assumed - but am beginning to believe that less now.

I have some ******ed oversized buttons I made. These are buttons that were sized for a "Techno Base" theme and I put them into my No Images Blank theme to test. The Slider and Grip are still default No Images "Wood" color - and bet pot is working fine.

I was going to next begin to try different slider/grips to see what I could get away with - to be able to style them better while not breaking betpot. I would rather have dave just tell me (again ) what I can get away with.

If it works 100% flawlessly with non-standard action buttons then it's probably safe to assume any action button style will work (short of maybe the background color of the button matching the table background color).

Btw on a totally unrelated note, if the INI were to be unlocked in the future would this allow us to physically move the location of player seats in a layout?

I wanted to experiment with a new HUD style which had numbers around every player's box but this doesn't really work now (the middle-left/right seats have no space on the sides).

The INI file was already locked when I began to mod Stars. IIRC - Bar said that the INI controlled "Everything" - placement of cards, images, player boxes, seats, avatars, font size/color, etc. I assume if they encrypted it - it won't be easy to make them decrypt it.

i know dave can offer a better explanation, but what i know about betpot and how it relates to your question - at least with PokerStars themes....

betpot uses "visual" cues from the screen to determine things like pot amount, bet amount, card street, etc.

it calls from a library of images that are stored in the betpot program folders in order to recognize (match) them.

these images were sampled from the "Default" and "Hyper-Simple" themes, each of which have a specific background color behind the "pot-size" numbers and betting buttons and bet slider.

betpot looks at a coordinate on the screen (in the bet-slider area) and depending on what color it "sees" - determines if it needs to use recognition images from the "Default" libray or the "Hyper-Simple" Library.

in order for a pokerstars theme to be betpot compatible, here are the criteria that I have found I need

1) the theme must use either Default or Hyper-Simple as the base theme
2) the bet slider needs to be the same color as the slider used in the base theme (at least in the area of the sample coordinates, which i can't recall at the moment)
3) the bet,fold, call buttons are a bit more forgiving but can still be overdesigned (gradients) as to render betpot ineffective

Hopefully if this info is inaccurate, someone will post

Someone with AHK savvy could add more image samples for additional themes, but i'm sure it's quite time consuming

bar, i'm using your yinyang theme, which is based on the stars base, guess that leaves betpot ineffective. So why does pokerpad work on everything, couldn't dave borrow script lines from pokerpad and add into betpot to make it work with any theme.

That was my thought/intention for the future - was to be able to create a theme, and include the new sampled images for BetPot with the theme - but I have a feeling this would be problematic (and very time consuming), in many different ways.

it is easy, just very time consuming. This is why I hand crafted and included only image sets from two default themes - and that took me a while

Ber Nuthin's explanation is pretty much 100%.

BetPot and PokerPad differ in the techniques they use for capturing the numbers - PokerPad uses very effective but hard to understand OCR, checking each pixel and trying to interpret a character from the results. BetPot uses somewhat brutal image comparison on Stars - it gets the screenshot is has of a "6", and just checks if any areas of the call button have a 6 on it, and so on.

There are folders for each table size (0-6) in the "starspics" folder, for the pot size display font and the numbers on the call button (which are also used for raise).

Betpot checks the slider and gets a predominant colour, which it uses to decide which image set to use. (and also in effect checking you are able to act, exiting if no sloder is spotted). This is a hard value and is unforgiving, so it could support many and varied themes - I guess I could change that, but it could lead to wrong theme guessing and therefore errors in bet sizes.

The buttons do have some tolerance in them, all that really matters is the background is fairly close and the font face is identical.

To package a theme for betpot, you would need to run it with some of the test lines uncommented (so as to reveal the predominant slider colour) - then add that case to the slider testing bit in the main code, pointing at a folder containing your screen captures. - I'd separate that in to an ini file (so installers could write to it) if need be.

If you have a browse around the starspics folder it should be clear enough what is needed. Chances are, just images of very different call numbers, and a copy of the correct "pot" folder (either blue or yellow base) - we can't do anything anymore with the pot display, thanks to gx.ini

Yes, it can control everything. position of seats, cards all sorts.

*_dave_ = smarter than a 5th grader, imo.

I think people can have it 1 of 2 ways:

A) - Fancy, styled buttons/slider that may or may not work with BetPot. I may be able to narrow it done in the creation process so as few original/BP images are required as necessary.

Z) - Default "wood" or "simple" images to make it BP compatible.

It is nothing for me to spend 20-40 hours creating a Theme. I am trying to reduce the time necessary with new software currently - I don't think that would reduce my theme creation time.

Since the label for Pot Size is controlled in the INI file I'm guessing it's literally a label control with the backcolor set to whatever is in the INI file, then the text property is the actual pot size amount?

Couldn't we figure out a way to read the value from memory when you press a hotkey, or at least scrape the label control's text, then input a value in the slider's text property?

Sorry I'm being a complete n00b folks, but I don't seen to have an Xthemes folder or Xthemes.ini, or am I missing something?

your xthemes.ini file should be inside of your xthemes folder.

In my directory it is c:\program files\Pokerstars\xthemes\xthemes.ini

Which doesn't exist until you create it.

^i^95

Nice layout but I have the same issue that I have with any of the Stars No Image themes, the cards are placed over my stack size. I HATE having to glance at the top left to see my stack size because the cards are covering my $. I don't play much stars becuase of client layout reasons so I might be missing the obvious. Is there a way around this or is it something hairball I've done with with a HUD or is this standard for Stars no Picture themes?

It places your stack size info in the upper left of the theme. There are 2 ways to overcome it when using dark backgrounds.

1 - Use a theme similar to how Bar Nuthin and I make them - with a colored tab in that corner of the table/background.

2 - Bar just made a "No Images" Deck - it uses ~1/3 the normal card face, so it rests above your stack size.