Data Mining PokerStars - Page 2 - Gambling and Poker Software Forum

Your IE proxy settings will have no effect on the method PokerStars client uses to connect to the Internet, why would they?

If it is suggested to conduct this procedure from a seperate computer, with a seperate IP address, while not logged in - is there any doubt you are doing something against the rules?

Don't think PS doesn;t know you are datamining... they are just not punishing you yet. Unless you dont use the datamined DB when you play, they can tell. If you don't use the stats, what is the point?

I hope they clear this up one way or another. Personally I wish they would allow it - but I don't hold out much hope.

12-17-2007 , 03:10 AM

#27

eastern motors

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Quote:

Originally Posted by _dave_

Don't think PS doesn;t know you are datamining... they are just not punishing you yet. Unless you dont use the datamined DB when you play, they can tell. If you don't use the stats, what is the point?

I don't see how they can tell you are datamining based on your DB. Are you saying that the PS client reads HHs from the PT directory? I really doubt it.

12-17-2007 , 03:12 AM

#28

eastern motors

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Are there any AHK scripts to automatically open all of the tables for a certain limit?

12-17-2007 , 04:43 AM

#29

P1zza_Man

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there was one person who was doing this but they found out about stars TOS and didn't post it

12-17-2007 , 04:49 AM

#30

blackize

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eastern motors

I don't see how they can tell you are datamining based on your DB. Are you saying that the PS client reads HHs from the PT directory? I really doubt it.

they do have the ability to take screenshots though and can determine how many hands you have actually played with a player.

12-17-2007 , 05:27 AM

#31

Tweed _Man

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,814

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxWeiss

Even Stars????

I don't have it, how is it???

Yes it works with stars. Just open up tables as an observer and ever hand is automatically added to PO's database. I'm not sure whether or not you can transfer the HHs to PT though.

Note: It hates Vista

12-17-2007 , 06:47 AM

#32

Flynn

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 486

Quote:

they do have the ability to take screenshots though

You mean Poker Stars software allows them to take screenshots of my desktop any time they want just like trojan horse viruses do? I think it is illegal and violates player's privacy.

12-17-2007 , 07:21 AM

#33

P1zza_Man

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Flynn

You mean Poker Stars software allows them to take screenshots of my desktop any time they want just like trojan horse viruses do? I think it is illegal and violates player's privacy.

poker clients are nothing but Spyware and they can control anything within your computer they want but they don't b/c they have this as an option to make sure they protect you and their other players against cheats

12-17-2007 , 07:34 AM

#34

stigmata

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Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,878

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackize

they do have the ability to take screenshots though and can determine how many hands you have actually played with a player.

ALthough theoretically feasible, it would be pretty difficult/unlikely for them to determine that you had mined data because number of hands on your HUD was different to number of hands in you had played with your opponents.

FWIW i'm with dave that we shouldn't be publicly advocating/discussing strategies to circumvent the T&C's of the sites, it is all we have to separate ourselves from scum like Ray Bornet.

12-17-2007 , 08:08 AM

#35

MaxWeiss

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Quote:

Originally Posted by P1zza_Man

No, Stars T&C says they can get a list of running processes but nothing else. Any more than that is illegal based on their own terms.

12-17-2007 , 08:09 AM

#36

MaxWeiss

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Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,173

Quote:

Originally Posted by donktoomuch

hmm ... it didn't work. with these numbers the txt's are totally empty but have th size of some kB

Sorry, I ahve no clue!!!

12-17-2007 , 08:11 AM

#37

Tweed _Man

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FWIW I used to datamine stars on a regular basis using Poker Office and never got cautioned.

I'm not sure if it was against the T&Cs back then though (just over a year ago)

12-17-2007 , 06:36 PM

#38

eastern motors

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tweed _Man

FWIW I used to datamine stars on a regular basis using Poker Office and never got cautioned.

I'm not sure if it was against the T&Cs back then though (just over a year ago)

Isn't poker office specifically allowed? Tons of people use it.

12-20-2007 , 08:34 AM

#39

Hektor

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 132

Hello,

I've got two PC's. On one of them (1) I never logged in in PokerStars. Now my question: Can I play on computer 2 while I datamine on computer 1? I'm worried because they have the same IP haven't they?

I connect with the Internet with a normal Router.

Many thanks for your answers!

Fabian

12-23-2007 , 02:31 AM

#40

eastern motors

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The AHK script works great. Now we just need a table opener.

If anyone want the suggested numbers to show up in the boxes everytime you run it, make the following changes:

Quote:

Gui, Add, Edit, W75 vHowManyHands, 300
Gui, Add, Checkbox, vHandsCheckBox Checked1 gLookAtCheckBox, Hands in IHH
Gui, Add, Edit, w50 x110 y62 vDiffHands, 1600
GuiControl, Show, DiffHands
Gui, Add, Button, x10 y113, Single Grab
Gui, Add, Edit, W50 vTimerBox, 280

12-23-2007 , 03:26 AM

#41

Gabethebabe

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Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 27,387

I datamined stars speed NL50 tables, 16 simultaneously, with PokerOffice quite recently and never had a problem. Didn't even know that it was against their rules

And no, you can not convert PO databases to PTracker AFAIK.

12-23-2007 , 05:14 AM

#42

MaxWeiss

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Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,173

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackize

they do have the ability to take screenshots though and can determine how many hands you have actually played with a player.

No, Stars specifically states that they only get access to your running processes. Party can take screen shots, not Stars.

01-04-2008 , 02:28 PM

#43

M4ST0R

stranger

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 9

Do you have a script that can open Tables automatically?

01-04-2008 , 04:26 PM

#44

CharlieDontSurf

Blessed by Pope

Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14,811

Just find someone who plays at the level u play at and buy there database.

01-05-2008 , 08:08 AM

#45

Dazarath

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There are other (safer) options for datamining Stars, but I think it's best if people don't talk about this stuff in public.

01-13-2008 , 08:05 PM

#46

Jehaim

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Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 5,055

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazarath

There are other (safer) options for datamining Stars, but I think it's best if people don't talk about this stuff in public.

Its so ****ing wrong hundreds of people are breaking a 'law' PokerStars can not enforce and by doing so have a huge advantage
over others who dont want to break the 'law'.

So ****ing wrong.

PokerStars should just allow datamining, or take some ****ing action against these ****s.

01-13-2008 , 08:55 PM

#47

_dave_

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Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,146

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jehaim

PokerStars should just allow datamining, or take some ****ing action against these ****s.

100% agree. Easy for them to fix too, and would enable publishing of many useful scripts, which for now are too dangerous

01-14-2008 , 09:50 AM

#48

notneo

stranger

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 5

I'm actually quite annoyed at players who decide to datamine Stars. There are sites which allow you to datamine why not go and play there instead of finding your edge on a site with players who actually stick by the rules.

I'm also suprised alot of you don't mind saying you mine stars... getting close to being called a cheat from me.