I'm new to using software to help my game. I am considering buying Calculatem Pro. Does anyone here use this software? If so I'd really appreciate any feedback. My primary concerns are, is it "user friendly" and has this software helped your game? The ad seems like it may be very worthwhile. Any feedback is greatly appreciated.



Thanks,
Matt

Seriously doubt that it is a good program. If it was good the developers would offer you some kind of trial before charging 100 dollars. The fact that they do not offer a trial shows how much confidence they have in convincing people that it is worth that amount of money...

btw Second post and asking about a bad software just stinks like spam

Yeah I thought so - but AFAICT not a known spammer IP - and no link I guess it stays until at least someone who has used it posts

After a quick google (if it is spam, it sorta worked) it looks like a fairly useless and overly expensive program... learning how to calculate (more recall, really) pot odds / odds to improve yourself is imo a better plan than relying on this.

It is on the Stars approved list, but some of it's features (setting ranges, having it tell you fold/call/raise) I was told would not be allowed not so long ago, grrrr.

Sorry, I didn't mean to offend anyone. I'm not a spammer, just new to the site.

I found this at http://www.parttimepoker.com/texas-c...culator-review

I'm new to using software,not poker and was trying to find out which software is best so I may make an informed decision.

_Dave_ thanks for taking the time to google search it. Much appreciated.

What software do you guys suggest? I appreciate any input. I've never used any software for my game. I'm sure my opponents do so I'm trying to get up to speed.

Thanks
Matt

what games are you playing? need to know this before suggestions.

For things like "odds to win/improve" - most round here will use pokerstove or holdem ramger (google them, both free) to study how various hands fare against other hands, ranges and so on - do enough of that and you'll get a feel for that aspect.

pot odds are very simple, you do not need software for that it's just pot:call - but there is a free AHK program (search this forum) called "pot odds HUD" IIRC that will display it for you on certain sites.

Thanks Dave! I play low limit cash, alot of h/u. i know that everyone uses software now, except me,lol. i primarily play nlhe. id like to improve my cash play. i'm not too software savvy and thought this would be a good place to ask, since i've learned quite a bit here. thanks again for your reply!

i used that software before
you should read better, because
you cannot buy it
it's yearly license....unless things change
i think you can get better deal when signup a new site.
second it's crap, nothing you can't do by yourself.
does not work with vista
does not work with sites, that you cannot turn a few thing off.
i was a losing player, until my license expire, and i play on my own. now i'm a winning player.

OK, there's one feedback from a previous user!

If you really have *no* software, you must get a statistical tracker application. Check these boards for PokerTracker3 (currently free beta), Holdem Manager (Just gone retail, but free trial available) and after the weekend PokerEV with any luck.

PokerTracker 2 is the current standard - almost everyone here will have bought it - but we are at a time now when there is a new generation of everything just becoming available.

These class of application are all cheaper than $100 - and far more valuable imo. Use them to review past saessions (the morning after, or whatever) - pick out hands where you lost a stack or won only half a stack and see if you could have done anything better (with the help of pokerstove / holdem ranger for equity analysis).

TBH playing h/u player specific notes are of far more value than statistics (although I am no h/u player, so take that FWIW) - but the replayer features of the trackers will help you review sessions and therefore make notes after the fact (and with a clear head) on players you will seek out to play in the future, and notes on an exploitable player are obviously well worth having.

Start with the free equity analysis tools and a decent tracker application.

Calculatem is aimed at LHE full ring and all is does is basically make you into a calling station. Perhaps in 2003 you could turn a small profit by playing like it suggests, but in 2008 you're gonna get eaten alive. Also, since it's designed to help you play LHE full ring, then using it for HU or NLHE is not a good idea.

Spend you're money on some books and study them. Then after you have started to make some profit by 1-tabling or 2-tabling, invest in PokerTracker (or one of the other new tracker apps) and learn to use it.

Juk

Dave,
Thanks a lot for all your information. I've downloaded pokerstove, it is a little confusing for me. Do you input hands manually while in the game? I'm looking for something that sits atop the table. I'm going to get pokertracker, I know that's the standard.I appreciate your help and time....TY to those who had used calculatem, I don't want to be a calling station.lol.Your replies have saved me the money for a crap software. Thanks for all your help!
Matt

lol i dinked around with this software for a few minutes, ando ne just like it, and it's suggestions were absolutely ludicrous.

IIRC, it doesn't actually keep track of the size of the pot so makes it impossible to make calls based on pot-odds (probably the most important concept for LHE). In general it just proposes a pretty passive "calling station" type approach with occasional really bad folds in big pots (because of the lack of pot-odds). Not even helpful if given for free IMO.

Juk

hi Ft is rigged!

I would advise u from not wasting your money on calculatem pro. It's useless and it's only a one year license.

First thing i'd recommend is that to improve your poker game, u study a couple of poker books. Either find ebooks online for free or local library, get Harrington on holdem volumes 1, 2, and 3, and all of david sklansky's theory of poker books. Second if u still feel like that a calculator would be useful, I recommend u check out the Holdem Indicator and Tournament Indicator. The licenses are lifetime licenses and come with various trials, the holdem indicator is free for play money to try it out and tournament indicator has 2 day free trial. I've tried many of the online calculators out there and discovered that those 2 are the best pieces of poker software for any new poker player. They are empirical calculators, meaning they not only tell u the win odds, hand odds, pot odds, sklansky hand number, EV:, but they also keep track of player's individual statistics. The tournament indicator has all the features that holdem indicator has but also includes the mzone number which is why it only works for tourneys and sngs. I am in no way affiliated with the makers of the indicators, it's just that I am personally very happy with my experience with those softwares, that I took my time to respond to this thread to share my knowledge. Trust me, I've done tons of research when I used to be a holdem player, I now play omaha hi/lo.

Couple of sites for u to check out:
www.pokercalculatorreport.com
www.pokerbooksreport.com
www.holdemindicator.com
www.tournamentindicator.com

Also as dave has suggested, u try out some hand history managing software so u can review your hands after a poker session. But those calculators include players stats that u can use while ur in session. Btw I agree about FullTilt being rigged. hope I helped.

Completely agree - and I also add that marty Smith (TurtleKnife) has numerous free videos showing how to use tournament indicator while running a tournament indicator forum that provides help to newbies too.

Wow. Wish I'd read this thread before paying for one year's Texas Calculatem a few days ago

I've tried the software twice now: once on PokerStars where it failed to read hands successfully then on FullTilt where it helped me to lose chips in a SitNGo and believe me, I don't need any help to do that!

thanks for all the help guys. I won't use it again.

Do not bother trying to do the free offer where you open an account with a given poker site and deposit some money. Once you have made your deposit the support team will ignore your emails.

After six weeks and eight emails I am yet to see the liscence code.

Very poor customer service.

I used this many years ago while starting out and at the time found it useful for showing me outs and pot odds required. More of a quick way to check your manual calculations and board reading are correct as you learn. The advice part is useless and should be ignored, you will not make money following it.

Hi,

I got it free when I joined Carbon Poker, it's not all that and I wouldn't recommend buying it tbh.

I had a pot odds/ hand strength calculater before and let me just tell you they are a complete waste of time, pokertracker/holdem mananager are the poker softwares to go for, pot odds can be quickly be done in your head, pt/hem give you player/table info to a massive depth

How can something that automatically tells you pot odds/hand odds/outs hurt you? If you can't use the information logically isn't it ME that's the moron? Of course taking into account how the other players are behaving? What's the downside? Do these programs actually calculate the information incorrectly?

Thanks

Yes, they suck and suggest a passive/weak-tight strategy.

Juk

NO!!!!!! DO NOT BUY This software. I have the program and it does-not attach to tables. I have contacted calculatem pro Support 4 time already and they always send back a auto reply "we will contact you in 24/48 hrs" it has been almost a week and still no reply from them. their support is non existent. it is very frustrating when you pay for something only to get ripped off. now I have to file a claim with my credit card company and file a complaint with the internet fraud for their lack of support.