For everyone that doesn't know, Linden has killed all kinds of high/low over many years from NL, to PL, but in my opinion is best at s/h LO8. Hope he takes this seriously. We can learn from him.

Q1: How do you play NLO8 vs shortstackers heads up?
Q2: Tell us about how you started playing poker, and how you rose to the limits you now play?
Q3: Future of PLO8 vs NLO8 vs LO8?

I appreciate all of the support that ive received in the last couple of days. Im a complete nut job.... and if you cant see past that..... youre gonna miss some stuff. If you dont think theres anything to miss.... feel free to move on. You know im all fluff.... why are you still reading?

If anyone wants clarification with anything or would like me to focus on something more specifically, id be happy to try do it.

1. Well, first and foremost..... they get one double-up against me.... they dont get to freeroll. Im happy to switch tables and start over, but they dont get to freeroll.

As far as strategy.... it obviously depends on how they play. Just because they shortstack doesnt mean they fall into a typical player range.
Ive played against tight shortstackers. Ive played against shorttackers who will never play a pot post-flop. Ive played against guys who are shove happy..... and amazingly, ive played against guys who are reluctant to shove. More specifically than any other form of poker, i will not play a standard style against shortstackers. Its the most dictated to i will ever allow myself to get in a poker situation, but i dont mind adapting and dont mind the situation.

2. My background is probably pretty typical of pre-internet type pros. I started playing in college.... and made quite a bit of money for a college kid even though we never really played all that high.

I had one job in my life after college for a very short time.... and after i quit it..... i started playing poker on the weekends in AC while i was looking for another job. I started to resent the job search and was making enough money that i decided to just give poker a shot. I figured if i ever went broke... that id just get a job.

As far as moving up in limits..... i started out playing 20-40 hold em or so and was doing very well. It ended up that a lot of the guys i was playing 20-40 with started playing higher. So, I basically, played 50-100 hold em in AC for like two years before i eventually moved to Vegas. I learned omaha/8 basically because i couldnt beat the 80-160 hold em games at the Bellagio when i first moved to town. Those games were absolutely the toughest regular games ive seen to this day and i had no chance in them for all sorts of reasons.

3. I think limit poker always has a more realistic future than any big bet poker games/structure. Realistically, big bet type scenarios dont last forever unless you have a reasonably large player base and we just dont have it.
I do think theres a reasonable chance of some bleed over from NL players who enjoy playing NLO/8..... but realistically, i think hi low itself doesnt lend itself to beginner's action..... or action type players..... and so PLO/8 which certainly requires more skill than NLO/8 has very little chance of catching on from a mainstream standpoint. I think theres a bit of a chance that you could see some very high limit NLO/8 type games evolve as a result of the action type nature of it and the similarity in structure to something thats extremely popular right now.

Your join date is Dec 2004. Why now? I mean why are you asking for attention now? Girlfriend/wife or boyfriend/husband dump you?

I enjoy posting to forums and i was bored. I dont have a boyfriend, sadly... although im always looking.

I dont want any real attention or i would be posting somewhere other than the omaha/8 forum.... and i wouldnt be doing this on perhaps literally any other forum. Good job guys.

I thought this was a place where everyone who played omaha/8 might actually enjoy sharing thoughts with someone else who plays omaha/8... and remarkably playing and playing for a living involve a helluva lot more than whats being posted here and what passes for a quality post here.

I was wrong on a lot of counts.... and if you want the real reason why its taken me close to five years to post? That is precisely why.

Sadly, I was more correct each of the last five years than i am now.

OOOOOOK

SN on Pokerstars and Fulltilt?

It might help if you explained what exactly you disagree with...... but i was trying to be generally sincere in my response.

hg_bg on pokerstars....

I was Linden_Arden for a number of years until pokerstars basically corrupted my account and i was allowed to change my id. I havent played on Stars (at least not regularly) for close to four? years now?

Linden_Arden on Full Tilt

I played on party sparingly and UB sparingly..... but i currently have no clients downloaded on my computer (macbook) aside from FT and Pokerstars.

MostlyBS- I'll answer the FT sn- Linden_Arden

L_A- What aspect of transitioning from Limit to PL/NL did you find to be most difficult? Did you feel you needed to make a good deal of starting hand adjustments? I know it seems basic, but it actually doesn't need to be.

What's your worst session experienced? Did/do major trainwreck sessions ever create poor performances following as a reaction or are they easily forgotten?

Pretty dull one but always of interest - biggest winning and losing day?

What percentage of days do you leave a winner when you play? (as a guess if you dont actually track this)

As fas as biggest winning/losing days i can probably take a guess..... i couldnt even begin to guess regarding biggest pot won or lost.

My biggest live win was probably in the range of 40k+ or so playing 400-800 mixed. Ive lost close to 35k+ playing 300-600 mixed and lost close to 40k+ one night playing chinese.

I truly have no idea what my biggest online win/loss is in one day but im guessing close to 60k or 70k in both directions and not often, obviously.

I dont keep real detailed records.... and I couldnt even take a guess as to daily win % although based on my style of play, my results are typically pretty skewed to the extreme.

not that this matters, but curiously, why did boonany assume YOU were looking for attention. you only responded to what predator asked.

What is your overall winrate live and online?

As far as the session results, it depends what im playing. The highest sessions that ive played have typically been in games that have very little room for tilt type factors (chinese and omaha/8).

Its much easier to tilt during sessions in draw type games and i am prone to it if im not careful.

But from session to session..... as long as i feel like im playing well i dont think one particular session affects my next session a whole lot regardless of how extreme the win/loss is. It MAY cause me to take a quick shot at higher or drop down as a precaution, but in terms of actual play, no i dont think it affects me much.

As far as adjustments from limit to PL/NL? Yeah there have been plenty. I didnt understand the true relative value of hands when i was playing limit even though i thought i did.... and even though my understanding was WAY deeper than most of the people i was playing limit with. I think starting hand adjustments was probably just a small part of it. I think was probably on cruise control playing limit for a ton of years because everyone played it SO badly that i really stopped paying attention to how everyone else played. If i made a mistake it cost me a bet or a fraction of a bet. Now, im more careful in observation as to how someone plays..... because of how significant it can be to make a single mistake.

Again, i cant answer this. My posts can easily be interpreted as someone begging for attention...... which i can assure you i am not. Realistically, how many people post here? And realistically, most of the guys here know who i am or of me from years of playing online. There arent that many of us, after all. If i was asked to leave, it wouldnt change my life. If i didnt get a WELL, it wouldnt change my life. Im happy to share, but im just as happy to go away.

F*ck if i know, lol. Seriously, ive never kept records not once. I always just figured id either do well enough to keep playing or id have to stop. I know thats not a popular answer on a forum like 2+2....... but its the truth.

Actually...... sorry, I started keeping records when I started playing chinese more seriously because i was curious as to what my variance was going to be. I can say that after about a month or less, i stopped.

ok, I'll fire a couple;

a) you've mentioned hi/lo isn't conducive to beginner action. so where does most of your profit come from? regs from lower limits taking shots? regs from other games taking shots? regs in your own games?

b) do you practise game selection?

c) do you listen to any music while playing?

a. yeah, its either gonna come from what id consider drop-ins (lower limit regs, regs from other games, or literally just randoms)..... or regs in the games i play in. But typically its important to remember..... with rare exceptions.... you typically cannot be conventionally skilled and extraordinarily successful. Its simply not the way it works. I admit it worked that way for a couple of years with NL holdem perhaps (as it did with the stock market in the early-mid '90s), but those ships tend to sail awfully fast. Point is, especially when you play in games with a small player base, you better be doing some exceptional to be successful over an extended period of time.

b. Of course i do. Sadly, more when im winning than when im losing. I also try to practice avoidance, but no matter how hard i try.... when i wake up in the morning, Dee isnt lying next to me.

c. I dont when i play online, although i probably should. No reason for me not to really. I absolutely do when i play live. In fact, i cant deal with the noise typically otherwise. In fact, i dont spend money on a whole lot of things, but i have spent a decent amount of money on ETYMOTIC earbuds and custom UE ear monitors in the last ten years or so, specifically for that reason.

Please clarify...

This.

LO8
Unknown open raises CO, your on BU. What's your 3bet range, what's your flat call range if any.

And dont give us the old 'it depends' nonsense....

These are the titles to his thread within the last week after how many years... Made me think, this guy is begging for attention. Then again, I could be wrong.

"Im lonely.... and"

"Anyone think Jesse Jane plays omaha/8?"

"Hello"

"Where's my WELL?"

My flat call range is going to be any hand that i think has value (in this spot quite a wide range)..... that has basically no showdown value....... and plays better multi-way than heads up. An example would be A234, 2345, A356 etc.

I dont mind flatting big hands here to induce calls from the blinds either......

I dont mind flatting hands such as A2JTds or A3KQds......

My three bet range is going to include any hand that has high card or showdown value, that id prefer to play heads up rather than multi-way.... and more important than anything....... a hand that i dont want to play against a range of blind hands that might call for two bets but not three.

An example of those hands would include AA4x, AA5x, AK94, AQT5 etc.

No, to that question..... it does NOT depend. I play that situation pretty much the same all the time, fwiw.