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02-06-2016 , 02:01 PM
Whos your favourite player to battle?

Most under rated cash player in your opinion?

Is there more money in cash or MTTS do you feel?
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02-06-2016 , 03:30 PM
Thanks for doing this, a couple of questions:

1) What is the meaning behind your name on Stars and 2+2?
2) How many WSOP events have you played in total? If you've been there multiple years, how has the skill level of players changed over the years (if any)?
3) In order of softness, rank the softest live O8 MTTs you've played in your life.
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02-06-2016 , 05:00 PM
Since moving to cash, has the rake felt like much of a factor and what has the variance been like for you so far? Since it's a split-pot game after all. Also this leads into another question: What kind of adjustments have you made during the transition from sng/mtt to cash and how has the competition differed there?

What do you see for the future of poker in general? It looks like Lithuania just blocked pokerstars and the poker climate seems more and more fractured over time.

Another related question, what are some things that you think the community could do to increase awareness and popularity of o8?

Do you only just play, or have you ever done any staking or coaching? If so, have you had any success with either one?

If all else is equal (buy-in, player pool/skill, etc.), do you prefer nlo8 or plo8 for mtts and sngs? And why?

What are some of the biggest and/or most common mistakes you're seeing in cash games lately?

Lastly, if you were down to your last 1k or so...what games/formats/stakes/particular tourneys would you be playing to build back up and also get back on track mentally? I guess I'm basically asking what stuff would you feel most comfortable playing after a spectacularly horrible run?
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02-06-2016 , 05:48 PM
Sorry, forgot about one other question I had.

With rakeback/rewards getting less and less on most sites lately, do you think hyper sngs are more efficient than turbos and/or normals in the long-term? If so, is there anything that might lead to them being less efficient in the future? Or maybe the reverse, is there anything (except higher rakeback/promos, of course) that could make hypers much more efficient? I ask this because I've seen a few hypers popping up on US-facing sites here lately and I'm not sure if I should play those and cancel some of my normal/turbo sngs. I wasn't sure if they would take up too much of my attention because they get short-handed so quickly and that lowers the number of tables that someone can play at once.
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02-10-2016 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by macareo
RSI is like carpal tunnel syndrome?
i dont know the english word for it but it could be the same
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02-10-2016 , 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by pandick
Whos your favourite player to battle?

Most under rated cash player in your opinion?

Is there more money in cash or MTTS do you feel?
my favourite player is the WHALE
i dont have 1 favourite player to battle because almost al fishes wont come back when they lose

i think for most players there is more money in MTTS
08 mtts are very soft and more players can have good winrates
in cashgames you dont have a lot of big winners
but i like cash more because i dont have to play long sessions
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02-10-2016 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by lotuspod2
Since moving to cash, has the rake felt like much of a factor and what has the variance been like for you so far? Since it's a split-pot game after all. Also this leads into another question: What kind of adjustments have you made during the transition from sng/mtt to cash and how has the competition differed there?

What do you see for the future of poker in general? It looks like Lithuania just blocked pokerstars and the poker climate seems more and more fractured over time.

Another related question, what are some things that you think the community could do to increase awareness and popularity of o8?

Do you only just play, or have you ever done any staking or coaching? If so, have you had any success with either one?

If all else is equal (buy-in, player pool/skill, etc.), do you prefer nlo8 or plo8 for mtts and sngs? And why?

What are some of the biggest and/or most common mistakes you're seeing in cash games lately?

Lastly, if you were down to your last 1k or so...what games/formats/stakes/particular tourneys would you be playing to build back up and also get back on track mentally? I guess I'm basically asking what stuff would you feel most comfortable playing after a spectacularly horrible run?
rake is not a big factor in cash if you bumhunt and have good winrate
the difference for me between sngs and cash is that i now have to play postflop.
adjustments i made is that i become more like a postflop player then preflop and that i play mostly HU now instead of 6m

poker will Always be good if you are good enough so i dont think it will dry up very quick

i dont know what we can do to make it more populair.
Maybe a well known red pro in 08games

i did more then playing but dont want to go into details about that

i def prefer NL08
1 reason is the antes and 2nd reason is that you can put more pressure

you see all kind of mistakes but i dont see 1 that i see all the time

If i got 1k left i will build up my roll with 6max hypers(3.5 till 15d) and take shots in 2/4 and 3/6 cashgames with my winnings
i will be very sure i will be playing my own games in 1 year
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02-10-2016 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by lotuspod2
Sorry, forgot about one other question I had.

With rakeback/rewards getting less and less on most sites lately, do you think hyper sngs are more efficient than turbos and/or normals in the long-term? If so, is there anything that might lead to them being less efficient in the future? Or maybe the reverse, is there anything (except higher rakeback/promos, of course) that could make hypers much more efficient? I ask this because I've seen a few hypers popping up on US-facing sites here lately and I'm not sure if I should play those and cancel some of my normal/turbo sngs. I wasn't sure if they would take up too much of my attention because they get short-handed so quickly and that lowers the number of tables that someone can play at once.
i think in hypers you can make more money because they go faster
also the timeframes you have to play are much better
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02-11-2016 , 10:03 AM
hypers require less attention than turbos not more since you get to the shove/fold more quickly and those are split second decisions compared to actually having to hand read.
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02-11-2016 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Angribob
hypers require less attention than turbos not more since you get to the shove/fold more quickly and those are split second decisions compared to actually having to hand read.
I don't really watch the hyper lobby but do these run upto 30s or just 3.50-7s? how many can you get in during a session.

Also heard they can be huge varience involved. Just wondering what you think a decent player can make in these a year and what kind of sample is needed to get an accurate roi?
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02-11-2016 , 01:01 PM
Volume just depends on who is playing. I don't like to play in the evenings/weekends much so I don't really know what it is like then but in the daytime (GMT) things are pretty slow. If you get a few regs grinding then there can loads of games running or if not then next to none. Dito $30 games - they run sometimes but often not....

If you look on sharkscope you can see what the top grinders made last year. It's pretty small and I doubt anyone will make much more than that this year despite some strong looking starts (I could be wrong)

Yeah the variance is much bigger than in other high low SNG's but it's still not as sick as holdem

Not sure about the ROI thing I guess that all depends how good u r relative to your opponents. Despite many people on this forum hating on the EV line from PT4 I'd say it's the most useful way to estimate your ROI and how well you are playing.

Sorry 4 the hijack bokkie ty for an interesting read!
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02-11-2016 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by pandick
I don't really watch the hyper lobby but do these run upto 30s or just 3.50-7s? how many can you get in during a session.

Also heard they can be huge varience involved. Just wondering what you think a decent player can make in these a year and what kind of sample is needed to get an accurate roi?
Don't listen to angribob he quits when the games get tough anyway There is definitely more volume this year at 30+ than there was last year. Hunmatt has played 400 30+ and I have played 300 30+ so far this year. I've also played a 500 this year which never came close to running last year. That being said nobody just plays 6 max hypers anymore. Hunmatt has played 750+ mtts this year and is also one of the highest volume hu sng players and I've played 350+ mtts and also play cash.
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02-11-2016 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by UnnaturalDisaster
Don't listen to angribob he quits when the games get tough anyway There is definitely more volume this year at 30+ than there was last year. Hunmatt has played 400 30+ and I have played 300 30+ so far this year. I've also played a 500 this year which never came close to running last year. That being said nobody just plays 6 max hypers anymore. Hunmatt has played 750+ mtts this year and is also one of the highest volume hu sng players and I've played 350+ mtts and also play cash.
i dont know much about hyper sngs anymore because i dont play them for living anymore but when i was playing them you could make like 7% avg roi (1dollar/game)
at that time they where really soft because they did just introduce them
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02-12-2016 , 01:16 AM
Hi, cool thread!

Questions:

A: With the heavy split-pot rake and the new rake changes, do you think the NLO8 CAP games are even mathematically beatable? I saw somewhere that the only people playing them as regs were rake-back pros, but is this even still possible? And why are they so popular?

B: How many of the O8 regs do you think are actually winning (even with rake back)?

C: The reg pool seems pretty small and fish play badly anyway. Since there aren't that many regs, you must be used to most of their tendencies. Do you find a HUD valuable at all, or not needed?

D: How quickly do you sit out of reg/ semi-reg tables? I mean, if there's a table of say Vandir, Horny Animal,Probes, Kuhns, Last Partizan, Ghostly Dude, Exit....these types of players, probably you have an edge? Not all of them can be winning right? Or is the rake high enough that unless you are HU that it's just shuffling money around and not beating the rake? Does there HAVE to be a 100% chump before you play, or do you join tables of weak (or not so weak) regs too?

E: Do you think there's more or less bluffing in O8 than NLH or Omaha?

F: What's the minimum hand you feel happy calling off you stack with to avoid getting quartered? A pair? Two pair?

Great read!
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02-12-2016 , 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by shane536
Hi, cool thread!

Questions:

A: With the heavy split-pot rake and the new rake changes, do you think the NLO8 CAP games are even mathematically beatable? I saw somewhere that the only people playing them as regs were rake-back pros, but is this even still possible? And why are they so popular?

B: How many of the O8 regs do you think are actually winning (even with rake back)?

C: The reg pool seems pretty small and fish play badly anyway. Since there aren't that many regs, you must be used to most of their tendencies. Do you find a HUD valuable at all, or not needed?

D: How quickly do you sit out of reg/ semi-reg tables? I mean, if there's a table of say Vandir, Horny Animal,Probes, Kuhns, Last Partizan, Ghostly Dude, Exit....these types of players, probably you have an edge? Not all of them can be winning right? Or is the rake high enough that unless you are HU that it's just shuffling money around and not beating the rake? Does there HAVE to be a 100% chump before you play, or do you join tables of weak (or not so weak) regs too?

E: Do you think there's more or less bluffing in O8 than NLH or Omaha?

F: What's the minimum hand you feel happy calling off you stack with to avoid getting quartered? A pair? Two pair?

Great read!
A. i dont play cap so i dont know much about it.
i dont think there are winning regs pre rakeback

B. i dont know. ofc there are lowstakes regs as well. so over 100 would be my guess

C.i always use a HUD. every fish play different

D.i prefer to play HU so i sit out very quick.
it mostly depends how bad the fish is.
i think i have edge on almost all the regs hu but not 6handed.

E.less

F. stupid question
depends on board texture
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02-12-2016 , 08:32 AM
Nice reading, tx for sharing!
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01-03-2017 , 10:51 AM
Bokkie! You wrecked me for years .

I know you said you use 2 monitors, but please say you're on team tiled tables. .
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01-03-2017 , 04:22 PM
what a bump lol!
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01-03-2017 , 06:12 PM
Well since it already got bumped and it's been almost exactly a year since the well was made, we want an update bokkie
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01-03-2017 , 11:47 PM
lol a friend linked me this thread, I didn't even think to read the dates.
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01-04-2017 , 06:36 AM
Graphs brah XD
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01-07-2017 , 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by FattieQ
Bokkie! You wrecked me for years .

I know you said you use 2 monitors, but please say you're on team tiled tables. .
i dont know who you are FattieQ but i still use 2 monitors
i stack tables now....
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01-07-2017 , 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by lotuspod2
Well since it already got bumped and it's been almost exactly a year since the well was made, we want an update bokkie
update is that i was running big under EV last year because i was running terrible on the highstakes games but still had a good year
in EVbb/100 i was running about even

goals for this year is that i want to make same amount of buyins in EV as last year.
dont have goal for winnings because when i got like 50/100 action and lose 100 or 200k it will affect my winnings big comared to the stakes i play mostly
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01-07-2017 , 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by GrimIsCool
Graphs brah XD
dont send any graph here.
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01-08-2017 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by sjappie
dont send any graph here.
But Bike posts graphs and he is BEST in world. You must be fish...
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