checking back the flop splits our range up into either nothing, a queen ball, or AA
I dont have enough history with villain for him to accurately know my c bet stats, if hes paying attention. This is a board that people will often check back with marginal value or not barrel on since its hard to have redraws (at this point).
If his limp calling range is somewhat standard, awxx type stuff than he should be semi bluffing turn often. I really cant tell if he noticed or remembered my iso ranges either
don't get me wrong. if villian checked the turn, i'd say: by all means, bet!
getting folds from non trivial pot equity, etc...
but raise his bet when SPR is 11?
risk/reward makes it look like a questionable play...
besides, what DO you call, rather than raise or fold, on the turn?
this hands seems like a good candidate for a call.
there is a similar discusssion going on regarding a NL hand I posted here.
evidently, it is much smaller stakes, but you might find the different opinions quite instructive.
in that hand, I actually check/raised the turn, but now consider it an incorrect move...
Thoughts on checking back flop, here to rep aa,66,q+?
u're not repping anything just because u raised pre and checked the flop unless u two have a big enough history. i think checking the flop is good tho in this case.
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obvi we hit the dream turn and have to stick it in...
it's no dream card because the board sucked from the beginning, just a good card.
i don't like the turn raise too much and hate the shove.
Like the flop check but don't like the turn raise. It may seem like it puts him in a tough spot but I think it makes it easy for him. He can fold any poor hand and jam any Q. The river will be very difficult for him if he holds something like A36/7 or JJ/KK. Any spade/3/8 will also be very hard for a non full Q.
Turn: ($19) 5 (2 players)
CO bets $16.32, Hero raises to $44, CO raises to $206.50 and is all-in, Hero calls $162.50
obvi we hit the dream turn and have to stick it in...
Villain slow played his flopped full house for one round.
We just recently had a discussion about flops with a pair and only one low rank. (But that was for a fixed-limit, rather than a no-limit, game).
I don't think it's unusual to encounter a villain using the tactic of slow playing such flops.
Villain risks splitting the pot when Hero back-doors a low, but that's unlikely and the gambit pays off big in a no-limit game when Hero gets sucked in and low misses.
More dangerous for Villain to give the free card if he slow played flopped trips, but still not an uncommon line of play.
One good lesson for you here is to be careful of the possibility of a slow play, especially after this type of flop (a pair and only one low rank).
This is a truly horrible turn call , and the raise isn't much better.
If he's got a queen then you just gave him an easy decision to stack you at high SPR. I think you are overestimating your equity here, it is under 25%.
If he has a low draw, then calling his lead is good; even if the low draw fills you often 3/4 him (and if not, you still don't do any worse than if you'd just called the turn, may even get extra value from a bluff).
About the best you can hope for with your raise is to make him fold two pair, but he might fold it on the river anyway when the low fills and you ship.
according to OP, villian is a LAG fish, so I don't think we have less than 25%, but we certainly have less than enough to profitably call the all in 3-bet.
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