I dont want to open a new topic for this hand so just post here.

Omaha Hi/Lo NL Tournament
PokerStars
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
$3.16+$0.34

Stacks:
UTG (1,021)
Hero (CO) (3,612)
BTN (2,347)
SB (13,761)
BB (6,259)

Blinds: 300/600 Ante 50

Pre-Flop: (1,150, 5 players) Hero is CO 3 2 K K
1 fold, Hero (3612)?


Bigstack SB is LAGgy, the others are tight.
Against a 25% range I am flipping or I am a bit ahead.
Fold/shove?

Shove.

Blah

18max in Leaderboards for sharkscope not taken into account?
ps Happy New Year!

I do the same in both these hands.

Shovey shove shoverson shove-it-in. Ain't no time to wait with these stacks and chipping up puts you in 2nd and then you can be picky for a few more hands. Max raise>fold>min-raise>call.


Yep. Ditto. Fold or raise max. Min-raise might look stronger but that isn't going to convince villains enough to make up for the stop-and-goes you might face from the BB and also the high possibility of others re-popping you with whatever-the-hell they are deciding to go with at this time and place. Max raise>fold>min-raise>call.

any game 2-3 tables.

happy new year.

same to you

PokerStars Game #73118777823: Tournament #493099009, $6.45+$0.55 USD Omaha Hi/Lo No Limit - Level XII (600/1200) - 2012/01/01 16:29:52 AT [2012/01/01 15:29:52 ET]
Table '493099009 2' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: atomicjan (1730 in chips)
Seat 2: Kegelopa (5693 in chips)
Seat 4: Donbyname (2373 in chips)
Seat 5: Juicy_J_93 (6082 in chips)
Seat 6: wadzon (11122 in chips)
atomicjan: posts the ante 75
Kegelopa: posts the ante 75
Donbyname: posts the ante 75
Juicy_J_93: posts the ante 75
wadzon: posts the ante 75
Kegelopa: posts small blind 600
Donbyname: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Juicy_J_93 [Kh 5h Ks Ad]
Juicy_J_93: raises 4807 to 6007 and is all-in
wadzon: calls 6007
atomicjan: calls 1655 and is all-in
Kegelopa: folds
Donbyname: folds
*** FLOP *** [7d 4c 6d]
Juicy_J_93 said, "lol"
*** TURN *** [7d 4c 6d] [9h]
*** RIVER *** [7d 4c 6d 9h] [Td]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Juicy_J_93: shows [Kh 5h Ks Ad] (HI: a pair of Kings; LO: 7,6,5,4,A)
wadzon: shows [3s 3d 9s 2d] (HI: a flush, Ten high; LO: 7,6,4,3,2)
wadzon collected 4352 from side pot
wadzon collected 4352 from side pot
atomicjan: shows [Ts 4d As 2c] (HI: two pair, Tens and Fours; LO: 7,6,4,2,A)
wadzon collected 3570 from main pot
atomicjan collected 3570 from main pot
Juicy_J_93 finished the tournament in 5th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 15844 Main pot 7140. Side pot 8704. | Rake 0
Board [7d 4c 6d 9h Td]
Seat 1: atomicjan (button) showed [Ts 4d As 2c] and won (3570) with HI: two pair, Tens and Fours; LO: 7,6,4,2,A
Seat 2: Kegelopa (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Donbyname (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Juicy_J_93 showed [Kh 5h Ks Ad] and lost with HI: a pair of Kings; LO: 7,6,5,4,A
Seat 6: wadzon showed [3s 3d 9s 2d] and won (12274) with HI: a flush, Ten high; LO: 7,6,4,3,2


How does this guy still have money?

What kind of adjustments are you guys making when playing PLO8 18 mans compared to playing NLO8 18 mans

I stopped mass tabling PLO8 because there is so much more postflop play than NLO8. Especially when you mass table both PLO8 and NLO8, you get into spots where you raise pot pre thinking its NLO8 and put yourself in a ****ty spot.

PLO8 also requires more precise bet sizing to manipulate the pot to set up shoves on later streets. One adjustment I'd make is being more aware of stack sizes and betting more/less accordingly (rather than using a default table ninja %).

i`m running so in the ko s&g this year.
marky was complaining too so i guess it isnt all for him either.
got a nice miniheater with 18 man at venus,
i hope the 515points after the first 20 are good enough for a ticket.
it`s been a while for me

Omaha Hi/Lo NL Tournament
PokerStars
3 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
$3.16+$0.34

Stacks:
BTN (8.6k)
SB (9.0k)
Hero (BB) (9.4k)

Blinds: 1k/2k Ante 100

Pre-Flop: (3.3k, 3 players) Hero is BB 2 8 A 3
BTN raises to 4k, SB goes all-in 8.9k, 6893 to Hero (7392)?

What do you think about this ICM-spot? (Opponents are average players.)

depends so much on gameflow. can't rly justify anything by knowing that they are average players. but i lean towards folding because i put SB on a hand that beats both u and the button. button is never gonna fold too.

Call imo, even if SB has a better hand, you lose over 20% of your stack by
folding. You need only 25% equity to make +cEV call and on 80% of low
Boards you dont bust. If you scoop you win outright.

maniac!

just kidding u got a point there. Still not sure cause even if we lose 20% we still have enough to win this and the other 2 guys will go all in potentially making u move up 1 in a flat payout structure.

Thinking about it i believe both plays can be justified in this spot. For me it would be gameflow that makes the difference. If the 2 guys are going all in every hand i wait for one of them to bust. If they play solid i probably call.

Consindering that we are at lvl 1k/2k, i assume we can discount that those
2 are going ai every hand... Actually i can't remember ever playing 1k/2k
3 handed, thats how much of a maniac i am

I'm putting on Bon Jovi and high fiving randoms!

Snap call IMO

Finally I folded because my first thought was yours, but...

... now I think Macr0s is right because the blinds are extremly high and even considering the ICM/payout structure folding here this type of hand was maybe a mistake.

Omaha Hi/Lo NL Tournament
PokerStars
3 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
$3.16+$0.34

Stacks:
BTN (8.6k)
SB (9.0k)
Hero (BB) (9.4k)

Blinds: 1k/2k Ante 100

Pre-Flop: (3.3k, 3 players) Hero is BB 2 8 A 3
BTN raises to 4k, SB goes all-in 8.9k, Hero folds, BTN goes all-in 4.5k

Flop: K 5 6 (20k, 2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: 4 (20k, 2 players, 2 all-in)

River: 10 (20k, 2 players, 2 all-in)


Both of them had A2xx and they split the pot.

it def. depends on your overall approach to the game. As i said, i absolutly can find reasons to call there.

I just try to avoid overcalling itm allready in these flat structures whenever possible. The fact the blinds are so high is certainly a + for calling but it doesn't change my overall approach. I rather shove 2479 on the button then overcalling 2 guys all in with like virtually same stacks without a super premium.

Maybe nitty and the result here would have been great for hero but in my like 20k sngs i moved up in the money a lot too folding there for sure. u can still get 1st HU

But yea: too each its own. One of these "there is no right answers" spots imho.

What makes it a call is that hero has both opponents covered. If our stack was 8.5k then that makes a huge difference.

when the blinds are that high folding is a pretty big mistake imo if we were at 300/600 then its an EZ ICM fold but with M=3 you gotta be all in as much as possible to avoid losing a ton of cEV

thats my take anyway - could be wrong

i snap ship.
blinds are too high and its a decent hand.




ps:but dont listen to me i run like
again.

My 18 man lobbies dont seem to open anymore - i mean the lobby opens but it doesnt list the players - anyone else having this issue?

dont know for me stars is super laggy for the last hour.
allways losing the conection.
i give up for today.after making 180$ from the BOP last week i`m fine.