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Old 02-26-2011, 04:37 PM   #1
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Unofficial Stars 18-man SNG turbo Thread

I was hoping we could have on mega-thread where members can just post their SNG hands and have instant feedback rather than having a bunch of short threads.

Buzz, if you want to edit the title of anything, feel free to do so.
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Old 02-26-2011, 04:39 PM   #2
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re: Unofficial Stars 18-man SNG turbo Thread

I'll start with this hand. What is your shoving range here? Is AJJ3 with a suited A in your range? How different does your range change if this is a full table (9 handed)?

Poker Stars $6.00+$0.50 No Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 5 players
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CO: t6135 30.68 BBs
BTN: t2785 13.93 BBs
SB: t1392 6.96 BBs
BB: t740 3.70 BBs
Hero (UTG): t2180 10.90 BBs

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is UTG with A J J 3
Hero raises to t2180 all in, 2 folds, SB calls t1292 all in, BB calls t540 all in

Flop: (t3524) 7 2 9 (3 players - 3 are all in)

Turn: (t3524) 6 (3 players - 3 are all in)

River: (t3524) 4 (3 players - 3 are all in)

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Old 02-26-2011, 04:44 PM   #3
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re: Unofficial Stars 18-man SNG turbo Thread

why would you post results?
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Old 02-26-2011, 04:47 PM   #4
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In my opinion since you are UTG you are raising here no matter what. If you raise a standard 3 x bb you are only leaving yourself 7 behind if someone else shoves and I don;t think you would be folding it anyway. There is no way you are folding this hand so I think a shove here is perfectly fine.
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Old 02-26-2011, 04:47 PM   #5
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why would you post results?
Why not they are in a spoiler tag.
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Old 02-26-2011, 04:55 PM   #6
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re: Unofficial Stars 18-man SNG turbo Thread

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why would you post results?
Showing you what kinda hands we're getting called on this particular day. Maybe in 6 months time, you won't get looked up with these hands. I feel like both are probably a bit light, thats just my opinion.

Another hand.

Poker Stars $15+$1 No Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 8 players
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CO: t2525 12.62 BBs
BTN: t1940 9.70 BBs
SB: t5326 26.63 BBs
Hero (BB): t2012 10.06 BBs
UTG: t2985 14.93 BBs
UTG+1: t2156 10.78 BBs
MP1: t8706 43.53 BBs
MP2: t1350 6.75 BBs

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is BB with A 2 Q 6
3 folds, MP2 raises to t1350 all in, CO raises to t2500, 2 folds, Hero ???
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Old 02-26-2011, 04:57 PM   #7
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re: Unofficial Stars 18-man SNG turbo Thread

I would generally shove in this spot but I dont think folding is that bad either.
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Old 02-26-2011, 09:02 PM   #8
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Showing you what kinda hands we're getting called on this particular day. Maybe in 6 months time, you won't get looked up with these hands. I feel like both are probably a bit light, thats just my opinion.

Another hand.

Poker Stars $15+$1 No Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 8 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

CO: t2525 12.62 BBs
BTN: t1940 9.70 BBs
SB: t5326 26.63 BBs
Hero (BB): t2012 10.06 BBs
UTG: t2985 14.93 BBs
UTG+1: t2156 10.78 BBs
MP1: t8706 43.53 BBs
MP2: t1350 6.75 BBs

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is BB with A 2 Q 6
3 folds, MP2 raises to t1350 all in, CO raises to t2500, 2 folds, Hero ???
Can't see this being a fold and if you call ti doesn't leave a lot behind should the flop come out really bad. However the starting hand seems strong enough to me where you could be 3/4ing someone most of the time.
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Old 02-27-2011, 04:03 PM   #9
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To be clear I was referring to the first situation.
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Old 02-27-2011, 04:39 PM   #10
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Showing you what kinda hands we're getting called on this particular day. Maybe in 6 months time, you won't get looked up with these hands. I feel like both are probably a bit light, thats just my opinion.

Another hand.

Poker Stars $15+$1 No Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 8 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

CO: t2525 12.62 BBs
BTN: t1940 9.70 BBs
SB: t5326 26.63 BBs
Hero (BB): t2012 10.06 BBs
UTG: t2985 14.93 BBs
UTG+1: t2156 10.78 BBs
MP1: t8706 43.53 BBs
MP2: t1350 6.75 BBs

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is BB with A 2 Q 6
3 folds, MP2 raises to t1350 all in, CO raises to t2500, 2 folds, Hero ???
This hand is a fold...blinds are only 100/200...you dont want to 3 way all in for your tourney life here. Be the shover not the caller
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Old 02-28-2011, 02:32 PM   #11
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This hand is a fold...blinds are only 100/200...you dont want to 3 way all in for your tourney life here. Be the shover not the caller
I think its pretty close actually.

Opponent dependant for me. I'm getting it in vs randoms...and some regs
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Old 02-28-2011, 02:39 PM   #12
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re: Unofficial Stars 18-man SNG turbo Thread

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This hand is a fold...blinds are only 100/200...you dont want to 3 way all in for your tourney life here. Be the shover not the caller
I'm the worst O8 SNG player ever but I agree calling here seems pretty -EV. THough like anything could be opponent dependent.
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Old 02-28-2011, 04:25 PM   #13
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re: Unofficial Stars 18-man SNG turbo Thread

Be the shover not the caller
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Old 02-28-2011, 05:04 PM   #14
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Be the shover not the caller
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Yes in general, I agree but at some point, calling is a better option than waiting for a better spot.

I think this hand is close but I'm leaning towards a call...

If you think its a fold, are you only calling aa2x or ak23 in this spot?

I think that's too tight especially in 18mans
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Old 02-28-2011, 05:15 PM   #15
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This A2Q6 is a snap fold, in a 3way pot you rate to have about 30-35% equity. You rarely scoop, and often get quarter or none.
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