I think I played this hand badly.

BB is LAG VP:89 PR:21 AFq:41
MP+1 SLP VP:56 PR:2 AFq:24

PokerStars - $4+$0.40|50/100 PL Hi/Lo - Omaha - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: 3,900.00
Hero (UTG+1): 8,716.00
MP: 4,325.00
MP+1: 6,790.00
LP: 4,944.00
CO: 17,698.00
BTN: 11,789.00
SB: 5,575.00
BB: 17,218.00

SB posts SB 50.00, BB posts BB 100.00

Pre Flop: (150.00) Hero has 7 A A 8

fold, Hero calls 100.00, fold, MP+1 calls 100.00, fold, CO raises to 550.00, fold, fold, BB calls 450.00, Hero calls 450.00, MP+1 calls 450.00

Flop: (2250.00, 4 players) 5 J 9
BB bets 1,125.00, Hero calls 1,125.00, MP+1 calls 1,125.00, fold

Turn: (5625.00, 3 players) K
BB bets 100.00,Hero ?


BB has been extremely lucky winning many hands on the river so I don't want to let him in cheaply. MP+1 plays hold-em hands.

How much should we raise here?

enough so that the river bet won't seem too big to call.
also, no need to make it a bargain for sets. 3,100 maybe?

Given stack sizes, i'd squeeze preflop with a big limp/re-raise.
As played, you've flopped the world with the AA+nut flush draw+double gutter+straight flush draw. i'd make a pot sized raise.

Double gutter = ???

5 (6) 789 (T) J

6 is a gutshot straight, T is a gutshot straight. together they are double-gutshot (or double-gutter).

This is sort of a tricky spot both PF and on flop. I can def. see playing it as you suggest here. One consideration on flop is that there are two villains behind, so hero has at least a couple of choices there. OP says he thinks he played it badly, but it depends on reads on villains and hero's post-flop abilit. I'm not certain exactly how I would have played it even with that info, so wouldn't say it was played poorly.

I'm going to stick to OP's question of bet size on turn: as played I agree that (esp. with two opponents) hero is often facing a set and should be both protecting and getting good value from his current nut hand, yet also setting up to get max value on the river, so the amount suggested seems good to me.

Although I would opened preflop , I like this line instead of limp / reraise as I think we are a bit too deep to reveal your hand. Flop I am jamming almost always so I don't have to fold any turns if things get crazy and we have more than enough to stack off here. As played on the turn I am just raising whatever I think they will call and pray board doesn't pair.

Spot on. I think I still limp reraise just because I want the pot heads up and your hand sucks. Definitely try to get it in on the flop.

I considered raising pre but was sure neither of the villains I ended up with would fold.

Also BB had this thing about three betting every raise pf and I didn't want to commit any more to the pot than necessary.

I definitely think not reraising the flop was weak given that BB was very aggressive and raised every round.

raise pre or limp reraise pre. raise flop max. Bet 4 to 5 k on turn as played, but if you bet this hand well to begin with then you could just go all in on the turn.

This is pretty standard, but with one villain already calling other villain's pot reraise, and another behind, just how sure is hero that it's going to be HU?

It's worth a shot, but with more than one opponent, unless the board plays out similar to this, he's going to end up in a tough spot. Does hero really want to semi-commit to this type of hand in this spot, esp. OOP?

I limp/re-raise because one villian already called, allowing me to squeeze a much bigger sizing, making flop SPR only 1.5 or less.


with SPR of 1.5 or less, play is very easy. we profitably bet or raise on any flop which is even remotely reasonable.

I don't know what's wrong with AA+2 low cards+suited A. hero should be the equity favorite most of the time.

position doesn't matter when SPR is so low, so this play is actually good as it neutralizes the positional disadvantage.

If you think this hand plays better in a single raised pot oop, then go ahead and flat call. I think it's hardly ever the case...

Your're right. I'm probably overestimating chances that all 3 villains come along for the ride, since it's a micro MTT. If that happens, I'm not too crazy about it tbh, because any small edge in equity is likely mitigated by being OOP with a hand that isn't so playable against 3 villains. I don't think such a low SPR neutralizes position with 3 villains.

In this case, any skill edge hero has is likely minimal, so he should be happy to be able to basically get it in on the flop.

As I said originally I think I stuffed this hand up from the beginning.
I think the hand should have been played as stated by "str8 or better" or at least raised atf.

I have the nuts on the turn and I think if I only bet half the pot they both stay so I max it.

PokerStars - $4+$0.40|50/100 PL Hi/Lo - Omaha - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: 3,900.00
Hero (UTG+1): 8,716.00
MP: 4,325.00
MP+1: 6,790.00
LP: 4,944.00
CO: 17,698.00
BTN: 11,789.00
SB: 5,575.00
BB: 17,218.00

SB posts SB 50.00, BB posts BB 100.00

Pre Flop: (150.00) Hero has 7 A A 8

fold, Hero calls 100.00, fold, MP+1 calls 100.00, fold, CO raises to 550.00, fold, fold, BB calls 450.00, Hero calls 450.00, MP+1 calls 450.00

Flop: (2250.00, 4 players) 5 J 9
BB bets 1,125.00, Hero calls 1,125.00, MP+1 calls 1,125.00, fold

Turn: (5625.00, 3 players) K
BB bets 100.00, Hero raises to 5,925.00, fold, fold

Hero wins 5,825.00

I don't think you played it terrible, I open raise pre. (but then I almost never open limp) and I'd raise flop. But...

After just calling flop you are pretty screwed on this turn when BB just min. bets. Almost any raise looks like a flush, and probably the nuts or a close to it if you raise a sane amount. Also your stack size is really bad for raising less than pot IMO, so given your hand is faceup I'd just pot the turn too.

If you had raised pre. and cbet the flop, then you can bet less than pot on the turn.

So his action is wrong preflop and wrong on the flop from your perspective but you don't think he played it bad? I somewhat agree, but this seems not to make complete sense.

The reason you bomb this in preflop is specifically to get it aipf with 2 other opponents, where two opponents have low and high hands. For instance, A345 and A2K5. You also want this AIPF when your opponents have KKQT/QQJJ hands or A238 ds hands. you are a favorite and you have a good chance of getting at least half the pot, if not the whole thing.

Small edges preflop should be pushed relentlessly in this game, play the tourney a couple hundred times and reap the rewards in the long run, don't let results interfere with your decisions. Suited aces with a suit, a low and a straight potential must by rammed and jammed on all streets with your stack size and position(especially because you said these guys aren't folding it preflop).