With 10-15 mins left in the rebuy period, he was open shoving for 20 BBs effective with 2467r and stuff. Basically he wasn't scared of losing. His goal was to build up as big of a stack as possible, regardless of cost.
If you're sitting there with 15k at 300/600 and 5 mins away from the addon with a +EV hand like AT23, are you going to call amok's shove knowing that getting scooped would double your effective buyin?
Well, maybe I'm dumb but I don't think the risk of getting scooped is that big with specifically AT23 - is only about 25%. With 2468r (dominating 2467r 67/33), it would however be a bigger problem , getting scooped by the range closer to 40% of the time.
Thought amok had it in the bag. He deserve an honorable mention for his 11th place finish. He played the rebuy period beautifully
Thanks. 1000th post! for everyone! (even for you billy)
It did indeed work very well - several players at the table were opening 2bb with a 20bb stack and folding to a shove, which is almost always a mistake in my opinion, even without the antes. During the first 12 levels (=rebuy-period), my pfr was 24% and 3-bet 10%, so I was certainly getting it in light, but wasn't a complete maniac. Evbb/100 was 55.37 which sounds too good to be true, but at least three players at the table were leaking chips at almost every possible chance they were given (limp-fold or open min-fold). I believe that at least 30 evbb/100 could be maintained in the long run under those conditions, which is huge, as it's almost purely from pre-flop play.
After showing my superior coin-flipping skills in the mid-stages, I was in the moneys. Many players were playing way too tight, especially with 5-10bb imo.
Some hands from the decisive moments:
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Spoiler:
I think there are about 15 players left at this stage.
Poker Stars, $75 Buy-in (12,500/25,000 blinds, 3,125 ante) No Limit Omaha H/L Tournament, 5 Players
Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q A 2 K
2 folds, Hero raises to 50,000, Rustam 050 raises to 1,313,258 and is all-in, Macieq calls 600,490 and is all-in, Hero calls 866,718 and is all-in
Flop: (2,474,551) A J 5 (3 players, 3 are all-in) Turn: (2,474,551) 6 (3 players, 3 are all-in) River: (2,474,551) K (3 players, 3 are all-in)
Results: 2,474,551 pot
Final Board: A J 5 6 K
Rustam 050 showed J 9 K Q and lost (-919,843 net)
Macieq showed J A 4 J and won 1,892,095 (1,263,480 net)
Hero showed Q A 2 K and won 582,456 (-337,387 net)
thoughts
Spoiler:
Comrad Rustam 050 was 3-betting ~50% of the hands and I'm sure Macieq was aware of that. For me, it's a huge coinflip to take at this stage, but I was fist-pumping pretty hard to get this in to be honest. If we want to be results-oriented, hero's hand has 45.1% --> cev +320k.
Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7 8 A K
2 folds, Hero raises to 50,000, Rustam 050 raises to 382,478 and is all-in, Macieq folds, Hero calls 332,478
Flop: (805,581) T 7 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in) Turn: (805,581) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in) River: (805,581) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Results: 805,581 pot
Final Board: T 7 3 8 A
Rustam 050 showed T J A K and won 805,581 (419,978 net)
Hero showed 7 8 A K and lost (-385,603 net)
thoughts
Spoiler:
This one is certainly more interesting. My friend, who is a rather strong player, didn't like my line here, thinking that this hand is not strong enough to welcome action (he wanted to open-shove). The difference is rather marginal anyway I guess. I am really curious if someone wants to play this differently (than open-getin or shove).
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Spoiler:
Another 5 hands later
Poker Stars, $75 Buy-in (15,000/30,000 blinds, 3,750 ante) No Limit Omaha H/L Tournament, 5 Players
Preflop: Hero is BB with 5 K 6 2
2 folds, luckys luke calls 30,000, E.O.Mplus30 raises to 611,459 and is all-in, Hero ??? (181,842)
thoughts
Spoiler:
Discuss
that's just after pay jump, luckys luke was a clueless fish and E.O.M seemed to have only slight advantages over him. as the table shortie, I'd get it in here and hope for a HU pot.
Hand #1: cooler. Gotta go for it with 20ish players left. Don't think I can fold this unless we have Macieq as a nit or this is the FT and pay jumps are massive.
Not trying to be results oriented, but if you shoved, would Rustam have called? His 3-bet % was 50%, but was he reshoving a lot of spots where he had zero fold equity?
Hand #2: Shove > raise/calling imo.
Hand #3: Definitely calling with the extra 30k in chips that will most likely be added to the pot.
1. Definitely playing it the same especially with your reads.
2. I open shove under normal circumstances because I wanna pick up the blinds and antes and this hand doesn't play that great postflop. That said looking at how bad villain is and his 3b %, opening to induce the spew and get it in, is a viable option too IMO. He probably folds his hand to an open shove.
3. This is close. I normally make these Cev calls with slightly less bbs. I could do either depending on villain.
I presume rustam is a Russian clown and 2nd guy is prolly okish.
bad call anyway....2 low cards with the ak or aq ok but not worth it with this hand
hand 2...yeah ur hand is pretty trash but as the mule in the sb is shoving any 4 then raise calling him seems ok as long as you fold to bb shove. (reckon u wouldn't though)
ur 'friend' is correct though just shove and hope you don't get action from the bb. and prolly not even from the sb. happy as larry to pick up antes.
cant be bothered to read hand no 3 as u prolly just chucked away 30k.
Last edited by billygstar; 01-28-2014 at 04:20 AM.
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Oh man, it looks like you're grossly overplaying medium pair + mediocre lowdraw (if any) type of hands that can easily get scooped, especially when facing a 3-bet pre...
fold, MP raises to 488, CO raises to 1,764, fold, fold, fold, MP calls 1,276
Flop:(3,828, 2 players) 2 Q Q MP bets 2,410 and is all-in, CO calls 2,410
Spoiler:
Turn:(8,648, 2 players) 7
River:(8,648, 2 players) 2
MP shows 5 3 T T (Two Pair, Queens and Tens) (Pre 41%, Flop 18%, Turn 23%) CO shows 9 A A J (Two Pair, Aces and Queens) (Pre 59%, Flop 82%, Turn 78%) CO wins 8,648
(I doubt I played those hands ideally either, though , feel free to criticise.)
@c00n i'v played PLO8 <20 times in my life (although i do play some FL08) , just playing lots of satellite's at the min to try get into some TCOOP's . But yea those hands look pretty lolbad
Last edited by ziigildurrrr; 01-29-2014 at 11:02 AM.
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