HAND # 1

(CO) $1960 - VP:13 PFR:4 AF: W:20|100 STL:0| 3B:0|0 CB: N:-975 Hands:24
(BTN) $8923 - VP:33 PFR:8 AF:1.0 W:50|100 STL:100| 3B:25| CB:|100 N:3387 Hands:24
(SB) $5288 - VP:4 PFR:0 AF: W:0| STL:|100 3B:0| CB: N:-1475 Hands:24
(BB) $15345 - VP:13 PFR:0 AF:0.3 W:25|0 STL:0|100 3B:0| CB:|0 N:-3050 Hands:24
vippy1(UTG) $6325 - VP:13 PFR:4 AF:0.5 W:25|100 STL:0| 3B:0| CB: N:425 Hands:24
Me(MP) $16382 - VP:35 PFR:17 AF:2.2 W:31|100 STL:67| 3B:0|0 CB:42|50 N:13382 Hands:95
(MP) $13343 - VP:38 PFR:0 AF:3.7 W:42|60 STL:0|100 3B:0| CB:|100 N:-287 Hands:24
(MP) $10395 - VP:38 PFR:4 AF:10.0 W:20|100 STL:0|100 3B:0|100 CB:100| N:7285 Hands:24
(LP) $10729 - VP:0 PFR:0 AF: W: STL: 3B:0| CB: N:0 Hands:1

notes on CO :
11/2014
middle late stage
*goes allin with 4 BB with A3(JQ) with only limpers shortstacked in LP

notes on BUTTON :
11/2014
middle / late stage
*3 bets huge a player who is allin to isolate and go HU with A47QDS... 25BB deep bet over half his stack pre > 3 or 4 bet him with PREMIUM pre !
*limps in LP with A(37)K then bets 3/4 pot into 3 checkers on (7K)2 with missed flush max lo draw and 2 pairs , then cheks on turn flush And calls 1/3 pot on river 8 with top 2 pairs and max low ( flush possible )



Given the notes on Button, and the stack sizes, is A3(3K) good enough here ?.. 80 players remaining out of 308 with 36 in the $$, average stack size at this point is 11.000.

I really thought about 4 bet BTN allin preflop, since i saw him do the same in a same spot earlier with a hand i beat with A33Ks.

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HAND # 2

Same tourney, similar situation (MP1 is CO of previous hand ) .

(MP) $4940 - VP:11 PFR:7 AF:Inf. W:50|100 STL:0|100 3B:5|0 CB:100| N:2005 Hands:61
(MP) $11925 - VP:0 PFR:0 AF: W: STL: 3B:0| CB: N:0 Hands:3
(LP) $14645 - VP:8 PFR:0 AF:0.8 W:14|0 STL:0|100 3B:0| CB:|0 N:-3750 Hands:61
(CO) $13641 - VP:33 PFR:33 AF: W:0| STL:100| 3B:0| CB: N:0 Hands:3
Me(BTN) $22162 - VP:30 PFR:13 AF:2.6 W:32|100 STL:44|100 3B:2|50 CB:42|50 N:19162 Hands:132
(SB) $20006 - VP:25 PFR:17 AF: W:67|100 STL:0|100 3B:20|0 CB:|100 N:15320 Hands:12
(BB) $20165 - VP:26 PFR:8 AF:7.5 W:19|100 STL:0|100 3B:0|100 CB:100| N:17055 Hands:61
(UTG) $1400 - VP:34 PFR:24 AF:2.0 W:60|33 STL:100|50 3B:19|0 CB:|0 N:-9329 Hands:38

notes on MP1 :
11/2014
middle late stage
*goes allin with 4 BB with A3(JQ) with only limpers shortstacked in LP
*goes allin with A249 dS ( AGAIN )
*ALLIN shortstacked again with AA49s min
*raises with A24Ks then calls allin with 9 BB in MP
*ALLIN PRE AGAIN WITH 5 BB in UTG+2 on UTG s raise, holds A(24)K

notes on UTG+2 :
11/2014 middle /late stage
*limps utg with A457 ds then calls a pot bet from SB pre,
*3 bets huge a player who is on tilt with 57JJs !!!!!....
*calls half pot bet ( allin of SB ) on 3J10 flop with max flush draw
*limps UTG+2 with A28Qs then 4 bets pot when BB pots to isolate into 3 players having same stack >>> looses then OVERTILTS



In this spot, I like my hand better then in hand 1 ( double suited ) , but is still only a A3 hand with a good kicker , without counterfeit protection. At the same time, the opponent with the biggest stack is MP1, and in the notes we see he plays AAWXs, A24Xs and A24Hs hands this way so I had a feeling A39Kds was bad here.

This time we have to invest 5 k having 22 k 51 players remaining 36 in the $$..

What is your general advice in this spots holding a A3MHds or A33Hs hand and facing aggression from shorter stacks in middle/close to bubble phases ?

Different spots entirely.

Hand 1 you have 41 bigs facing an effective shove for half your stack with a hand that would not play well 3 ways. I probably fold this pre in EP as well. If I did play this I would be raising, this is not a multiway hand.

Hand 2. Their ranges will be wider due to their stack sizes and it's far less of your effective stack. Your hand is way better. I jam here.

Hello streity boy. Ty for your reply.

Have seen that you started similar threads ( bubble play with particular hands ) so iguess you know what your talking about

Agree for hand 1.

For the hand 2 , would you still auto raise pre based on the hand and the effective stack sizes when you see the notes on MP1 ? I probably would too on unknow vilains but in this case i did not because of the range vilain has shown previously in the same spots.

Counterfeiter

This pretty much nailed it..

Hi,

Have bought my own odds oracle now , !

I stay on my position for hand 2, according to the reads and the expected range ( AAwh/A24Hs or ds ) ,and the numbers here under, I still think it was a good fold.

3 handed :



HU ( since player 3 is really short stacked ) :



Even HU he's still way ahead for lo and even for high, I prefer to be the one ahead preflop in this spots .

Ha why does it skip UTG and start with UTG +1?

I think ak33 suited to the king is good enough to raise utg+1 on almost any table, and with the c/o basically being short enough to ignore we are utg+2ish. You need to have a plan with a lot of these 15-20 BB stacks around if 3-bet , which will be to jam if they are likely to have wider than AA and fold if not. You also have to be comfortable gamboling a bit with opening this and possibly playing some dicey flops, so I don't hate a fold pre, just a matter of style and comfort.

Limping is the worst option though. Always be pushing fold equity as the blinds rise.

HI ILC, no idea why man, it converted this way from the HHC. just did let it like this but makes no much senses to me neither..

Yes, the playing mode differs from my mood hehe ( tight/serious/thinking a lot/abc ot completely donk betting against the odds without to even consider who i play against and just win the pots pre and post by aggression ), here i was in the first mood style ^^

It's def a fold!

you have to to at least call with hand 2

you can't fold ak3 ds to 2 shortstacks, its a massive leak


hand 1 i agree that entering with a raise is reasonable, but having decided to limp, folding is ok