No info on SB.

$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo
4 Players
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Stacks:
CO ($5.31) 21bb
Hero (BTN) ($25.31) 101bb
SB ($48.33) 193bb
BB ($17.85) 71bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 4 players) Hero is BTN K 4 3 5
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.62, SB calls $0.52, 1 fold

Flop: 7 2 6 ($1.49, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.99, SB raises to $3.70, Hero calls $2.71

Turn: 8 ($8.89, 2 players)
SB bets $8.49, Hero calls $8.49

River: 8 ($25.87, 2 players)
SB bets $22.60, Hero goes all-in $12.50




Meh, I feel like i played it wrong in every street...

You are possibly being freerolled atf.

After the turn you have the "idiot" end of a str8. I would fold but hey I'm no expert so wait and see what someone else says.

once turning 3rd/3rd with backup, I think you're calling down.
bet/calling flop can't be correct, though...
those bare non nut wraps in both directions are good candidates for checking behind on the flop.

once raised, you probably have around 35% pot equity, not quite enough given effective odds and having to fold to a bet after many turn cards, depriving your opportunity to see the river, which a good chunk of your pot equity lies upon.

when getting raised makes it close and leans on the side of folding out non trivial pot equity, you often do better by checking behind.

we know from Hwang's PLO books that even a small pair that accompanies your wrap adds a lot of value to your hand. indeed, making the K a 2, your equity jumps to 40%, in which case, I like your line a lot better.

not trying to state the obvious: "I like better hands better!", rather, that I like to visualize my range and decide which type hands i'm going to c-bet and which i'd normally check behind, assuming an unknown villian, whom I can't exploit quite well enough, yet, forcing me to revert to some type of GTO approach.

I also don't think checking behind makes life easier for villian.
you are going to call a bet on most turn cards, using position and the fact that now you're playing a controlled pot against a much weaker range, allowing you to comfortably value bet a river K, for example...

trying not to be results oriented here: "oh, you got check/raised, let's check, then!". not that! also not saying you played this hand badly or anything...

just something to think about: c-bet often, but not all the time, and don't just randomize your bets and your checks. use common sense as to which hands are worth checking (usually those of marginal value and decent, but not great, pot equity). food for thought, I suppose.

GL

with no reads it is a fold on the flop, but after you call flop and hit turn I think you should go with it on the turn

I don't mind open folding this, even on the BTN, unless I know more about the blinds. It's high enough equity wise, but plays horrible post on a lot of boards. It is the kind of hand that encourages the blinds to defend wide (not that most need any), so if that's a goal it's good .

On the flop I don't mind the bet, mainly for FE, but you are crushed by A63 so calling can't be good. On the turn you hit your worst best card and you are never folding river, so shove turn.

Open OTB until the blinds show you that they are tough and start to play back.

Besides that I largely agree with SOB. Playing a little with PPP I cant find more than 40% equity on a good day and most of the time I expect it to be smaller (against a range containing A3, small wraps, and the most likely set and two pair combinations).

As played I would just fold the flop and get on to the next hand.

On turn I think we are flipping and it doesn’t feel good to get it in here IMO.

I wrote 35%.
40% if we make the K a 2 - making hero's hand 5432.

We have no idea what the good rivers are, and I doubt we fold to 1/2 pot even if a 5 hits and we don't even have the buffing lead ... so you fold turn?

And I agree. I wrote I cant find more than 40% equity on a good day and most of the time I expect it to be smaller.
On a good day means: If I am a happy optimist or semi-drunk.


Yes even after I folded the flop.

Thanks for the replys!

I don't think you can profitably bet-call the flop. Check it back or bet-fold, depending on how the villain plays. With no info on the villain, check back is better in my opinion.

Check flop. On the turn I am not folding. I will take the freerolling vs A3 any day. Plus there are very few hands here that he has that are scooping you because he needs exactly a 4 card combo.

This is on the flop, and I agree. However...

But this seems the opposite, I can't find less than 40% on the turn, no matter what range I give villain (and most are significantly higher) ... and we only need 42% to make shove > fold. I'm willing to admit that one of my bigger leaks is not re-evaluating bad decisions on a previous street enough, and I'd never even thought about folding turn before you said it ... but I still don't see how folding turn can be significantly better than shoving, although it is less variance.

I assume you fold turn if villain bets $4 too, as that's basically the same thing?

Also curious ... what do you do if villain checks turn?

Ck bac flop - ton of freerolls for him. If you bet, fold to cr as A is only safe card.

Ahh yeah…. on summer holiday… little rusty. I too can’t find a range for Villain where we have less than that 43% so shoving turn must be the right play.

But the big error is on the flop and that is what gets us in the precarious situation. On turn we have only invested 4.32 and have to shove 20.99 vs. a hand that almost always are freerolling us. As the hand plays out we can’t count on having much FE and Villains line is very strong – anyway math tells us to call, but Hero could and should have saved his money earlier on IMO.