I think it is a subtle reference to how possibly one of those said names titled is good for the game. Not completely obvious, but apparent enough I think. Could be wrong though.

+1

please show me a player that shoves 4 of 5 hands and doesn't adjust (well). I've got a roll that can take a lot of variance -- that's a gold mine for me and any o8 player who knows ranges.

for some reason, I think that this is not the whole story.

sorry buzz... I kinda agree with his post.

obnoxious? yes.

truthful? um... yes (imo).

I go with you on this one. The shoves in poker, generally speaking, that once were heroical things, have become routine, with the problems arising with that. Of course, if I primarily played for money, I would do my best to exploit.

I don't have a problem with the point of view. I have a problem with the way it was expressed after a history of other posts by that poster with which I took issue.

You may not follow all the posts on this forum and you're not privy to the private correspondence that occurred prior to the action taken.

Finally I had enough. I don't expect you to understand that.

For what it's worth, I come to this forum because I want to discuss and learn about Omaha-8, not to play forum cop or play a surrogate parent role to a rebellious or immature poster.

But... well... I am a moderator here and we do have a certain standard of excellence on this forum.

Buzz

I do not struggle to win when deep, I win more deep. I dont know your screen name, but if you're a reg you'll seen me play a good number of hands deep at anything from 0.25 to 600 deep. I hate these name calling LC threads that detour from the topic.

fair enough. I respect that.

i have tons of respect for you high stakes regs but the complaining is getting pretty bad....one day youre complaining nobody wants to play you and then when somebody plays you, you complain about how deep they buy in.

I say encourage people to play no matter what they buy in for because the better player will always win the money in the long run

Fair enough. Your initial response tilted me and I was rather inebriated at the time. I tend to have moments of clarity expressed in terms of rather acerbic "wit". I stand by the content of all my posts, but the manner as you rightly note was overboard.

Fair enough.

I agree. We all want to learn and develop our understanding of 08 in a clean friendly environment. I just think it can sometimes come across as a bit heavy handed. The Dorsal Well pic for example and I note in my absence the following http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/44...ay-pot-862121/. I was looking forward to discussing the content only to find it had been closed. We do not need this in our forum IMO. The contributors should have enough clout to guide this forum as it sees fit sometimes. I don't think we get enough input which maybe contributes to the frustration at times. Can I suggest a monthly, poll/discussion thread to iron out what peoples suggestions would be to improve this forum?

No qualms there. My apologies.

Well angryfish asked me 2 plz never sit at his tables again 2day

shortstacked NLO8 sucks...NLO8 with 200+ BBs is a phenomenal game

his name is in the title of the thread, but it is not really a gold mine as it is only 20bb deep, he almost only plays hu (at least at 3/6) and shoving 80% of your buttons shallow, while not optimal, is enough to beat the majority of players.

thanks for the clarification.

so SS NLO8 ftw?

lol... nah. not interested in ss play against a semi-competent player. the edges are WAY too small to justify the table slot. my biggest hope would be metagame (i.e., trying to turn villain into a tilt-monkey), but that also means reduced tables since these games add a lot to your cognitive load.

for some reason, i thought your were talking 40bb or more. believe it or not, i have played against a few players who would shove in pretty regularly in fr/6max nlo8 games at stakes from 1/2 to 5/10. two people i specifically have in mind always had full stacks (100bb) or more. this was about a year or two ago. when two of us were at a table, the nits went crazy... "you shoved with WHAT?!?!? he CALLED WITH WHAT!?!?!?!". they didn't have any idea about ranges and how to adjust. even though these villains were losers to me, they made quite a bit of money off of tilted nits who thought they had found a gold mine when they saw the average pot size (usu. 40-50bb... but at times got to be over 100... a few times briefly at over 200bbs... made a lot of money in those games).

fwiw, these games were at cake back when the big bet o8 and the plo games were VERY good and fairly regular. i check periodically, but i don't see the same slate of games running regularly.

AngryFish is insane and fun to play HU

angryfish is a giant donk n bokkie is pretty good...but I guess on the whole good for the game as they both give action.

in what does angryfish give action?
No idea why cal someone giant donk especially if you are one of worst regs yourself.

Whos angryfish btw?

this is old stuff so dont care about it but he was spewtard;D

yes bring him back!

This is exactly why I loathe NLO8. Pot limit is so much more pure...