Played an Omaha hand as part of a mix game that I thought was interesting (semi low limit mix game). I have A41010 on the button. Loose game and several callers to me so I call. We see flop seven ways for one bet.

The flop comes K42 giving me the nut flush draw, a pair of fours and of course the tens I have, but no low draw. Check to a loose player who bets out. One caller to me, I call and a player in the blind calls. The thurn is the unexpected 10 giving me a set. First player checks, the flop bettor bets again, fold to me, I raise, the player in the blind cold calls and the flop bettor now three bets (ugh). I call and the player in the blind calls. The river comes the A. Player in the blind checks and the bettor bets again. And you do what?

I'm assuming this is limit?

I just call. If he's a loose player, you're not going to bluff him off a set of kings on the river, and there's now a low enabled. A loose player will call down with some fairly crappy lows. Also, the blind feels a lot like A-3 chasing the nut low. The aces may very well have made him aces up and he might be tempted to call one bet, but I doubt he'd call two bets. Just call and hope no one hit the straight or better set.

Yes limit game

Call.

Hope you don't get check/raised by the blind and hope nobody has 53** for the wheel, QJ** for the Broadway, a set of kings or a set of aces.

Buzz

Am I the only one raising flop for value? Otherwise, as played on turn, and call the river.

call except against a tight player who is scared of the nuts all the time. then you can make a good fold.
you are probably going to lose this hand.

i wouldn't raise flop

turn's fine and call river

Turn might be a cap. River is a clear, but not happy, call.

Seems like a pretty obvious call to me. Were you considering raising or folding?

I actually did consider folding but I called. Against most people in my experience at these games, you are not getting three bet on the turn there unless he has three kings. And since I have the Ac he can't even have a super draw and lower set. Are there people who push the turn with less? Yes. But they are not typical. Also, the river card could easily mean I split even if I somehow have the best hand going in. I did pay off though on the off chance this guys had a lower set and A3 or something even though I didn't think he did. He had KK79 so I lost. Other guy didn't show so prob made aces up after his low busted out.

I do think Ray is right though, against some you can lay down. This guy is loose but not super aggro post flop normally. But on turn I only lose to one hand so hey he happen to have it. Such is life.

There are two nut hands by the river and only two, and there aren't many players who would have the balls to raise without having either the wheel or the Broadway.

...Any chance the guy lays his trip K's down to a raise?

I think it's fine either way. Can't be a huge mistake to call here, or to fold. A lotta time you're going to be crushed by a straight/higher set.

all these little things that are just a bet to pay off add up over the long haul to huge amounts of money. so getting them right while still progressing in the game will make a big difference years from now in your bankroll.

just because there is only one or two hands that can beat you doesnt mean it is unlikely they have it. their bet or raise may mean they have it for sure.
its the old saying they dont use anymore that you should get married to any hand.

The problem with asking for advice on hands like this is that the right play is very opponent specific. And the OP will always have more information about the opponent than the rest of us.

It is very likely that you are beat. But in order to fold, you can't just be very likely to lose, you have to be virtually certain.

So against an unknown opponent, about which I am virtually certain of very little, I am going to call. But there are definitely regular opponents in the O8 player pool that -never- bluff, or even semibluff, in this spot. (And I think these opponents make up a larger portion of the player pool in LO8 than most other forms of poker). Against these opponents, it is clearly right to fold.

well put nick. you are right for sure.

also a reason to speculate in these hands that are posted isnt always to get the right play for the person as you said we dont have all the info. but to discuss possibilities and teach and make players especially newer ones the correct way to think about things.

when making a tough fold a good way to think about whether to or not is to ask yourself. (say you are getting 8 to 1 odds -------------do i really have a 1 in 9 chance of winning this pot.

Yes.

You only have a flush draw. You are likely playing for 50% of the pot.

A lot of the time the turn pairs the 2 or K and you have to fold.


If it was 3 high cards with no low possible or if you had A3xx with clubs, or even A5 with clubs I could see raising for value.

As played, just wait for the turn.

not at 4-8