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04-17-2014 , 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by wadzon
I was writing more 01-09-2014

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aless_84...
I am already tired of your preaching.
Do you consider yourself the most intelligent all know someone better.
You like to play without the short stacks - you play without them.

I adacan made for 100k VPP every in January.
The last months we have made a 0 (I at least).
Here you specify what is best for us - lol .

Let introduce a CAP-tables and time will tell viable or not.
I am tired of you not being able to make sense in any single sentence. Get a translator ffs if you want anyone to begin to understand what it is you are trying to say.
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04-17-2014 , 10:54 AM
Shut up already about 20 bb

Is it easier?
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04-17-2014 , 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by wadzon
Shut up already about 20 bb

Is it easier?
Solid point. I am sure Pokerstars will take those spot on arguments into consideration when they make the decision.

By the way, games that are only beatable by SNE's (after rakeback of course):

[ ] Good for poker
[ ] Sustainable in the long term
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04-17-2014 , 11:28 AM
sorry translated by google

dificlmente this may be worse
I hope something will be done now
nl10 + cap now
cap maybe not the best, but I imagine that this is already ready
* the best time was, 20-100 bb, 1 hour waiting
but that would not return

* not counting, and 1016 aless_84
other players want a change now, imaginet?
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04-17-2014 , 11:46 AM
Is there any solid argument hidden in that borderline incomprehensible gibberish you three are spitting out? I think there isn't, but then again i don't understand 80% of what you people are typing, so there might be.
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04-17-2014 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by aless_84
Solid point.
For you I have only this.
You don't understand the previous 3 post.
There I explained everything.
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04-17-2014 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by wadzon
For you I have only this.
You don't understand the previous 3 post.
There I explained everything.
idk..I highly doubt u understand much of what's really going on.whether in English or russian
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04-18-2014 , 01:28 PM
Wouldn't a shallow table similar to the ones they have on Full Tilt where the buy-in is 20-40bb be to everyone's liking?

It's just about the same as the 20-100bb tables, and you won't be raped by the rake as hard as you would on a CAP table.
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04-18-2014 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by WINNINGSTEK
Wouldn't a shallow table similar to the ones they have on Full Tilt where the buy-in is 20-40bb be to everyone's liking?

It's just about the same as the 20-100bb tables, and you won't be raped by the rake as hard as you would on a CAP table.
The problem is that with buy in obligations people that want to play more than an hour a day with 20bb would be unable to do so.
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04-18-2014 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by adacan
The problem is that with buy in obligations people that want to play more than an hour a day with 20bb would be unable to do so.
Start new tables.

You didn't complain when there were only 20-100bb tables.
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04-19-2014 , 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by WINNINGSTEK
Start new tables.

You didn't complain when there were only 20-100bb tables.
In a scenario with 20-40 bb tables with buy in obligations after a short amount of time every table i started i would have to start with 40 bbs which i won't do. In a scenario with 20 bb cap or as you suggested 20-40 bb (but without buy in obligations) people who want to play with 20bbs would be able to do so. I like your idea of shallow tables. Either shallow tables or cap tables or 20-100 bb is fine so long as people who want to play with a 20bb stack are able to. However stars would have to exempt 20bb nlo8 from buy in obligations for that to happen, and for whatever reason they don't seem want which is why I think it is more likely that cap will be implemented rather than shallow or 20-100bb. Fwiw i liked the old system we used to have better then I think I will like cap, but I still think cap is a lot better than having no option to play with 20bbs.

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04-19-2014 , 09:08 AM
You don't understand that you can't keep playing the same game and still win if you won't evolve with the game. It was never going to last. You weren't going to have a profitable short stack shove game forever, with or without the table changes. If they do change it to something that allows your strategy again, you won't be profitable for very long.
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04-19-2014 , 01:03 PM
Ummm...what does any of this have to do with hyper turbos? You have your train wreck of a thread!!
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04-19-2014 , 04:14 PM
0/680 I just can not hit a golden SnG. They are hard to hit
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04-20-2014 , 02:06 AM
Smallish stack shoving is kind of suiting this thread, even if ring game analysis is too far a stretch. Found this, will be my friend hereafter: http://www.fpppro.com/fold-equity-calculator.php

Looks my ev chips graph has become a bit steeper after not giving away small blind, antes and fold equity heads up.

Also, let's keep this thread at least closely on topic

Last edited by plaaynde; 04-20-2014 at 02:26 AM.
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04-20-2014 , 05:49 AM
Nobody can hit a Golden. I think that's the point of their con (sorry promotion).
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04-20-2014 , 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by streityboy
Nobody can hit a Golden. I think that's the point of their con (sorry promotion).
just because you havent got one doesnt make it a con.
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04-20-2014 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by streityboy
Nobody can hit a Golden. I think that's the point of their con (sorry promotion).
True i have 2 so far.
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04-20-2014 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mullion
just because you havent got one doesnt make it a con.
Considering the volume I have put in, the payouts on the original Golden Shower, the diminishing overall price pool, and the increased rake for Stars, it's fair to say it's pretty ****e. This WAS a good promotion, now it's rape the customer for all they are worth.

Stars looked at the volume in extra rake it generated, reduced the price pool available and watched the $$ roll in. It's like increasing your revenue and reducing your costs at the same time in real business, pretty standard stuff.
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04-21-2014 , 05:24 AM
This promo has so much value regardless of whether you hit golden or not.
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04-21-2014 , 06:29 AM
as long as the fish think it's good value then it's good value.

But i'd guess that even the fish are started to think it's bs when they never ever get a golden ticket
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04-21-2014 , 12:25 PM
I finally got my first ever golden SnG, as in, first from ANY promotional period ever going back years. Got a huge refund on my buyin, all happy today )))

True what other guys are saying about volume - HOWEVER - it ain't volume of newbies or fish IMO, it's been exclusively volume of regs who have diluted their volume in other games to play some SnGs. I spent most of my 6-max time playing with 2 SNEs (rayXXXXXX and another I can't remember) , gumasta, Ziemniok, humnatt, jellyfish and jani osmo. Field for 18-man games was unchanged - I take notes on every newbie that sits, haven't added any this weekend, which is very unusual even outside promos.

Last edited by HighTillIDieT4L; 04-21-2014 at 12:28 PM. Reason: sample is $15-$100 btw
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04-21-2014 , 07:56 PM
Not so happy any more after the disgusting day of beats I just endured, in need of a brag or win of some sort.

Many have said that 3% is an acceptable ROI for a good 6-max hyper player. Some say 10% is a great player, although none of the leaderboard guys post 10% in 6-max. I'm gonna brag and say I'm pretty useful if I post a steady 14.4%




Last edited by HighTillIDieT4L; 04-21-2014 at 07:58 PM. Reason: graph easier to see
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04-21-2014 , 08:28 PM
Who are you trying to fool, yourself or the forum?
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04-21-2014 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by flipya4dinna
Who are you trying to fool, yourself or the forum?
I assume that's directed @ me. In what respect am I trying to fool said collectives?
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