Hi guys,

Playing 4/8 lo8 with half kill, md live, 5:45 Am

Games been playing absurdly loose, 7 handed, frequently 5+ to the flop with a raise. There is a player who's slow rolled 3 times now and I had recently re slowrolled him because I'm a child

I'm on the button with 23Q8 rainbow, and call a Very loose players raise, along with 6 others (aka a family pot)

48$ pot, and flop comes A57 with 2 clubs. Its bet by slowroller guy and called twice before I raise the button. It gets capped 4 ways and were off to the turn, praying to not get 1/4,1/8 or counterfeit/free rolled. The guy next to me flashes 368 to me which was weird.

$128 pot and the turn is an off suit ace. 4 of us, and the guy who helped me cap it on the flop bets, I raise (I don't think I'm getting quartered or freerolled) and everyone calls.

Is this a bad raise 4 way?

River Is the beautiful off suit 9 and it's checks around to me and I bet.

Thoughts here? My reasoning is that I felt I was against 2 players with an ace and one other slightly worse low.

I will share the absurd ending after a reply or two. I literally LoLd and my buddy Rofl'd

fold pre, and no, i would not jam this hand at any point without any backup. pretty easy river bet.

You're a child?

I would probably fold.

Seems weird to me too.

Why did you raise?

OK.

Why?

Absurd ending? Be interesting to see what qualifies as an absurd ending.



Buzz

So you split the low three ways and won hi with Q hi?

86 though

Thanks for the responses! I'm on my phone and the app isn't the best.

Looking back, folding pre is absolutely the correct play. But hey, I did mention I was OTB! And it was an excellent game..

As played, I felt that after flopping the nut low, I had to jam for value against multiple callers.

[QUOTE=Buzz;46392043]You're a child?
- first and only time In 10 years I've slowrolled. Villain had slowrolled nut lows and blatantly didn't show all 4 cards at showdown multiple times, so I did the same to him and I check called him on the river and He showed QT on a QT883 board, I waited as long as I could without being a complete ass (all of 2 awkward seconds) before showing my aces to scoop a nice pot. Childish. Moving along.

I would probably fold..
-Agree. See above.

Seems weird to me too.
- free info, he raised and that semi prompted my nut-low, 4 way value raise

Why did you raise?
Above, and bc I just didn't feel anyone was particularly strong, hence the weak ace comment. Felt like a great spot to make an extra $16

Absurd ending? Be interesting to see what qualifies as an absurd ending.



Hope you enjoyed.

Uhaul

yeah, but pre is still not even close. and if you had the other two calling in between you and the capper, then i like the turn raise (i thought the other 2 were acting after you).

We were across the table from each other. Thx for helping clarify

How many people called you on the river?

2-3 I think 2 calls and one all in

What happened to the guy who initially raised this hand preflop? It sounds like he must've checked the flop because you said that it was the "Slowroll guy" who actually lead this flop. I ask because, I don't know if there were players who had checked before it was Slowroller's action---I don't know if I'd want to raise at this point if it meant that ~two or three or more players would be faced w/a double bet. It's a catch 22 because you really don't know how they're going to react to your raise---ideally, you'd like everyone to jump in the pool; is raising the flop the better of both options? If it was in your opinion and you really thought that most of them would gamble here and call several bets, then go for it; and that's also a great way to tie players to the pot, which, is exactly what you want to achieve w/that type of hand. If, however, you thought you might get half the field to call one bet but would fold to a raise, then I don't like the raise.

I like the turn raise because it will keep anyone w/trip aces tied to the pot(especially in this type of game) and you might even confuse players into thinking that you're actually raising w/a high hand thus you might trick them to call w/a second nut low.

The river is super easy---they check? You bet.

As an aside, I'm also more liberal w/my hand selection when I have the button---not so sure I like Q832 for a raise even with the button. I could see the temptation for wanting to be a part of this pot...but then again, it sounds as if every hand was tempting to be a part of, but nonetheless, I still try not to get too caught up in these conditions where I'm lowering my standards too much.

I kind of doubt the story unless people misread your hand. According to propokertools, this hand scoops against 3 other completely random hands less than 1 out of 100,000 times.

He scooped this pot?! (I didn't read his spoiler)

Which way is Maryland, again?

[QUOTE=UHaul;46392564] I wondered whether his fourth card was a deuce or a queen. (Interesting that it was neither).

I did. Thank you for sharing.
Buzz

While it's hard to document every action and whatnot, unless the people all misread their hands and missed my jaw hitting the floor when my queen high elicited no one proudly showing their pair of 5s, it's legit.

I've played 100k hands and never seen it before.

It's not just 100k hands of O8 before you're likely to see it...it is 100k where you have Q high in a 4-way pot. Unless you actually saw their hands, I think it is much more likely that they misread their hand or yours than they all hand exactly JT42 or something like that. Most likely, someone called with 42 and wasn't even thinking about what your high hand was. I know I've misread my hand way more than one in 100k hands.

Showdown lasted about a minute if I had to guess. Everyone was looking for a pair, but nope.

yeah, i mucked a scoop once (luckily it was 4/8).

I've never mucked a scoop before but I have capped it on the river with the nut low. Ah, if only there was a possible low.

OP's hand was definitely an anomaly of sorts and might not happen again...ever!...but I just don't see how no one in that hand had an ace(trips) w/all the action that went down. That's a tough hand to misread, and, I told him that he might get looked up from second nut lows due to how he kinda played it like a high hand, but, to get THREE players to call and then he scoops?! Lock-the-****ing-doors, my friends.

Probably 2nd, 3rd and 4th nut lows

I also find it very unlikely that no one else had an Ace, King, 9, 7, 5, or pocket pair in their hand. (or even QJ or QT!)

Funny hand though.

1:100,000 pretty unlikely

After the relative disbelief ITT I called my buddy who was sitting next to me during the hand and he did confirm there were 3 other people on the river. But wasn't sure about all ins

Yes, I was shocked that you scooped, but fwiw I wasn't doubting what you said---just envious that that stuff doesn't happen to me!



Its not uncommon for players to make a call on the end holding a lighter hand when the pot is of substantial size. Granted, I don't think these players were necessarily thinking along those lines, and they def shouldn't be making overcalls w/3rd and 4th lows, but, its def one of the major reasons why(esp in these types of games) building the pot early on is so important, even when you just have the low.

just read OP fwiw

don't cap with this hand unless you have counterfeit protection and pref back doors .... or at a REALLLLLLLLLLY juicy table (which is very possible at 4/8) where people will be calling 4 bets with weak lows, flush draws, and draws to the high... in that case I jam all three streets and pray my hand holds...