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Ha, for some reason just had a flashback to this hand from couple years ago where i flicked in the 2k direct and i wasn't exactly rolled for it back then. Shouldn't mess with crushers. Enjoy.

Poker Stars, $2,000 Buy-in (30/60 blinds) No Limit Omaha H/L Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #32975461

Slavik_Krs (SB): 5,688 (94.8 bb)
zangbezan24 (BB): 8,510 (141.8 bb)
UhhMee (UTG+2): 6,457 (107.6 bb)
mtvdeuem (MP1): 4,246 (70.8 bb)
JaniOsmo (MP2): 6,544 (109.1 bb)
Hero (MP3): 4,045 (67.4 bb)
ImaLucSac (CO): 8,312 (138.5 bb)
luk45zp (BTN): 5,311 (88.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K

UhhMee raises to 120, 2 folds, Hero raises to 4,045 and is all-in, 4 folds, UhhMee calls 3,925

Flop: (8,180) 3

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (8,180) 6

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (8,180) 4

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: 8,180 pot
Final Board: 3

UhhMee showed 3

and won 8,180 (4,135 net)
Hero showed K

and lost (-4,045 net)

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11-29-2014 , 05:00 AM

#177

plaaynde

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Had to try to picture who of you played it worse:

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation[/URL]

1,086,008 trials (Exhaustive)

Hand	Pot equity	Scoops	Wins Hi	Ties Hi	Wins Lo	Ties Lo
Kh Ad Ah As	47.53%	414,475	617,821	0	0	0
3d 4s 2d 5h	52.47%	468,187	468,187	0	533,185	0

Conclusion: not hero, in spite of PPT

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11-29-2014 , 05:24 AM

#178

pandick

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Originally Posted by Buzz

copied from atf for you:

I think because Jona is Belgian they now have to pay 75% tax on poker winnings.

Hope you relocate mate and play soon.

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11-29-2014 , 05:56 AM

#179

billygstar

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Originally Posted by pandick

I think because Jona is Belgian they now have to pay 75% tax on poker winnings.

Hope you relocate mate and play soon.

ewwww that's gross :/

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11-29-2014 , 05:59 AM

#180

billygstar

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Originally Posted by Neptune04

I think folding the A246 is totally on how ur feeling! I know it's a fold but sometimes i'd just be like man **** it haven't seen a beauty like this in hours, f this guy and flick it in. ICM and pot odds be damned aka gambling is fun.

That's not why I came on tho. Wanted to point out the obvious errors in AMAYA's ways. so the $50+1 hypers are now $52.50. They always smashed the 1k guarantee often getting up to 2k in the pot. Now sometimes there was overlay appearing on the 1k. So the rake change has almost halved the field which means there's probably not enough ROI around now to beat the rake increase which should eventually means that the game will die eventually.

But here's what i noticed tonight whilst flicking it in like a punter, the 505am one has had its guarantee reduced to $750 (altho the 535 still has 1k on). I mean the company makes over a million a day i think and it loses $100 or so on this comp and slashes the guarantee straight away which is a product of them increasing the rake anyway, boggles the mind.

yeah Neptune I noticed this too....I've stopped playing them for a while but was still looking to see how they are doing with the increased rake.

it's killing it. I am hoping they change the buyins down to $25 same as the other one that was included a while back. Cant recall the time. Maybe that would save them but this rake increase really sucks for mtts like that. yawn AMAYA!

Last edited by billygstar; 11-29-2014 at 06:00 AM. Reason: if i was a russian and got to call with that hand versus me i would too...

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11-29-2014 , 10:41 AM

#181

WINNINGSTEK

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Well... That was a money river...

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Omaha H/L Cash, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #32982121

Hero (BB): $101.82 (101.8 bb)
SB: $214.25 (214.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T

SB raises to $2, Hero raises to $5.50, SB calls $3.50

Flop: ($11) 9

(2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $5, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($21) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $14, Hero calls $14

River: ($49) T

(2 players)
Hero bets $47.55, SB raises to $189.75 and is all-in, Hero calls $29.77 and is all-in
Results: $203.64 pot ($1 rake)
Final Board: 9

Hero showed T

and lost (-$101.82 net)
SB showed 9

and won $202.64 ($100.82 net)

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11-29-2014 , 10:46 AM

#182

plaaynde

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Nice having the nuts and not winning.

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11-29-2014 , 11:15 AM

#183

Counterfeiter

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Originally Posted by Buzz

copied from atf for you:

Hello buzz , thanks ! Nice to hear from you

I hope belg will come back have seen a lot of people asking for a perma ban in the same thread and they are not banned anymore i would say it is a 65/35 that belg will be back within 1 month !!

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11-29-2014 , 11:21 AM

#184

Counterfeiter

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Originally Posted by WINNINGSTEK

Well... That was a money river...

SB raises to $2, Hero raises to $5.50, SB calls $3.50

Flop: ($11) 9

(2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $5, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($21) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $14, Hero calls $14

River: ($49) T

(2 players)
Hero bets $47.55, SB raises to $189.75 and is all-in, Hero calls $29.77 and is all-in
Results: $203.64 pot ($1 rake)
Final Board: 9

Hero showed T

and lost (-$101.82 net)
SB showed 9

and won $202.64 ($100.82 net)

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Is this a HU table or a six seater with 2 players ? Asking because of vilain's range

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11-29-2014 , 11:31 AM

#185

Counterfeiter

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Originally Posted by WINNINGSTEK

Uhhmmmmm, what just happened?

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Omaha H/L Cash, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #32975321

SB: $160 (80 bb)
Hero (BB): $176 (88 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4

SB completes, Hero checks

Flop: ($4) 6

(2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks

Turn: ($4) 5

(2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks

River: ($4) 3

(2 players)
Hero bets $174 and is all-in, SB calls $158 and is all-in

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I hesitate between misclick, very drunk , under drugs , or he needs to unlock a bonus with fpp 's lmao , or he is building a loose player image for later

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11-29-2014 , 05:31 PM

#186

Buzz

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Originally Posted by Counterfeiter

Hello buzz , thanks ! Nice to hear from you

Hello Counterfeiter. Thanks.

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I hope belg will come back

Me too. He was a good poster.

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have seen a lot of people asking for a perma ban in the same thread and they are not banned anymore i would say it is a 65/35 that belg will be back within 1 month !!

Hard to say.

Belg indicated in the A.T.F. thread that he was taxed more than he could tolerate.

We'll miss him and we wish him well.

Buzz

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11-29-2014 , 05:50 PM

#187

Hero Value

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People asking for a Perma for him? Why was he banned?

And boom. Shipped the $26 PLO8 gotw. That was a fun level or 2 where with 6 left and 5 paid, I had like 70-75k, and the next biggest stack had around 15k, and I could just freely punish, and open like 80%

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11-29-2014 , 06:23 PM

#188

broken_jia

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Originally Posted by Neptune04

The rake isn't the full reason players aren't play this. The structure is absolutely horrible. Look at the same $52.50 NLHoldem tournament (right structure) and what the NLO8 one is:

I posted about it in a new MTT thread for non-Holdem games. I encourage you to voice your frustrations there.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...7&postcount=40

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11-29-2014 , 06:38 PM

#189

Buzz

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Originally Posted by Hero Value

People asking for a Perma for him? Why was he banned?

If you're referring to belg_owner, there's a thread in A.T.F. where anyone can request a self ban. The following is a quote from that thread:

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Originally Posted by belg_owner

Perma please, quitting ty to taxes.

Buzz

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11-29-2014 , 08:59 PM

#190

Hero Value

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Ty Buzz.

Quote:

Originally Posted by broken_jia

The rake isn't the full reason players aren't play this. The structure is absolutely horrible. Look at the same $52.50 NLHoldem tournament (right structure) and what the NLO8 one is:

I posted about it in a new MTT thread for non-Holdem games. I encourage you to voice your frustrations there.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...7&postcount=40

Wow, that's a seriously huge difference. Horrible.

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11-30-2014 , 12:50 AM

#191

pandick

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Originally Posted by Hero Value

Ty Buzz.

Wow, that's a seriously huge difference. Horrible.

Just encourages bingo, reason i skip it tbh.

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11-30-2014 , 04:25 PM

#192

The_Exile

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THIS IS POKER (or at least the difference between a hyper player and a poker player)

Poker Stars, $75 Buy-in (100/200 blinds, 25 ante) No Limit Omaha H/L Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #33020611

nilsef (MP1): 12,503 (62.5 bb)
avhishnik (MP2): 7,148 (35.7 bb)
filfedra (MP3): 13,809 (69 bb)
GiBobH/L (CO): 14,926 (74.6 bb)
de lucca (BTN): 8,210 (41.1 bb)
biood1 (SB): 7,485 (37.4 bb)
kosmopolita (BB): 9,961 (49.8 bb)
TxsFrUrMoney (UTG+1): 6,398 (32 bb)
Neptune04 (UTG+2): 3,940 (19.7 bb)

Preflop:
7 folds, biood1 raises to 7,460 and is all-in, kosmopolita calls 7,260

Flop: (15,145) Q

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (15,145) J

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (15,145) 3

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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Originally Posted by biood1

wow, horrible.. would have to quit session after it.

I make lots of mistakes too bro but this shows what you think of the opposition and where your head is at ....

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11-30-2014 , 05:04 PM

#193

pandick

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Originally Posted by The_Exile

THIS IS POKER (or at least the difference between a hyper player and a poker player)

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (15,145) J

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (15,145) 3

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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I make lots of mistakes too bro but this shows what you think of the opposition and where your head is at ....

Can people not play post flop, why are you shoving 40bbs pre? what do you think he's going to call this bet with

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11-30-2014 , 05:05 PM

#194

billygstar

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ur sshove is pretty bad unless u have seen him making lol calls but anyway his call his 5 times worse..

shoving almost 40 bb even bvb isn't going to work out well mostly if u get called. but as he did make a bad call mayb u know somthin we don't here

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11-30-2014 , 05:06 PM

#195

billygstar

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booid doesn't play many much post flop

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11-30-2014 , 06:12 PM

#196

The_Exile

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Originally Posted by billygstar

Surely you don't think it was me ripping from the SB with that hand? If I had A 2 3 K ds or something, sure, maybe I shove there and yes, kosmo if anything is even looser than biood (who did the shoving) and will call WIDE

As for the call itself, I don't think it's bad. I would have made the same call to the same player shoving, but kosmo didn't know this, so yea it's pretty terrible from both.

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11-30-2014 , 06:33 PM

#197

billygstar

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no I knew it was booid ha

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11-30-2014 , 06:55 PM

#198

billygstar

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yawn 16th in prog. another sigh near miss day of not closing anything decent.

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11-30-2014 , 07:08 PM

#199

Neptune04

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Change to $82s seems a good one for some games

Poker Stars, $75 Buy-in (40/80 blinds) Limit Omaha H/L Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #33020951

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K

UTG+2 raises, Hero 3-bets, 5 folds, BB calls, UTG+2 calls

Flop: (9.5 SB) 5

(3 players)
BB bets, UTG+2 calls, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG+2 calls

Turn: (7.8 BB) K

(3 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, BB calls, UTG+2 calls

River: (10.8 BB) J

(3 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, BB raises, UTG+2 folds, Hero 3-bets, BB caps, Hero calls

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