Limit o8 regs thread

[Buzz]

Originally Posted by str8 or better

Only one FLO8 hand discussion in page 1 of the main O8 forum...

It goes back and forth. There probably are more players who post on this forum who are interested in pot-limit Omaha-8 than fixed-limit Omaha-8. That's how it was the last time we took a survey. And some posters prefer no-limit Omaha-8.

There's a lot of overlap, though. Many, if not most, of us are interested in more than one structure of betting. And although implied pot odds are different between the three structures, hand odds remain the same for all.

(You have favorable odds if your implied pot odds are better than the hand odds against you in all three betting structures).

Buzz

[plaaynde]

Originally Posted by Buzz

(You have favorable odds if your implied pot odds are better than the hand odds against you in all three betting structures).

Yes, it's like you say. For PL and NL the implied odds are a very natural and essential part. In FL the immediate odds are more important, but I feel I have to learn much about how much the implied odds should be taken into account in FL.

[FoxwoodsComeUp]

Originally Posted by str8 or better

Only one FLO8 hand discussion in page 1 of the main O8 forum...

I think that when black friday occurred 99 % of all the flo8 being played in the U.S ceased. people dont play it on merge network much because their limit rake is so high. If online poker doesnt get legalized in the next 3 years in the US, which is where flo8 has grown to be what it is today, then poker players are gradually going to start playing other games.

Most likely plo8 or plo hi since flo8 isnt being offered much and people need to get their gambling fix (and i dont think poker is gambling, it just has a gambly element in it). i could see whatever popularity flo8 has dissipating in a non-regulated online poker market, in a possibly drastic short term coma-like existence.

on a brighter side, as the game of poker grows more and more every year, i feel a re-establishment of a legit online poker industry in our country would soar the game of Lo8 to new heights of popularity never-yet attained, right where it was headed during a period of what I like to believe was an all-time popularity for the game at the end of March 2011.

I'm basically rooting for online to get regulated asap. (and for the coming decade a casino built in the boston area would definitly be icing on that cake)

[manndl]

i really like FLo8 but after BF there arent enough tables running anymore,so i`ve been playing more and more PLO8 and NLo8.
im not sure why but my winrate went up doing that too.
i guess many of the better regs were from the usa.

[GrimIsCool]

What FLO8 MTTs (if any) run daily with a decent number of players? (Stars) I imagine these could be fairly profitable.

[Buzz]

Originally Posted by FoxwoodsComeUp

I think that when black friday occurred 99 % of all the flo8 being played in the U.S ceased.

I didn't notice a decrease in fixed-limit Omaha-8 tables in the Los Angeles area casinos I visit. If anything, there might have been a slight upsurge (probably due to some former on-line players moving to brick and mortar casinos). And when I visited Las Vegas recently, there were multiple tables of Omaha-8 at the Venetian and the Orleans.

Overall there probably was a decrease in flO8 play in the USA after black Friday, but I don't think it was 99% or even over 90% - maybe much less. (I don't know what percentage of flO8 in the USA was being played on-line).

Seems like this forum took a hit in the number of posts and posters after black Friday.

Buzz

[FoxwoodsComeUp]

Originally Posted by Buzz

I don't know what percentage of flO8 in the USA was being played on-line

There was so much more action online than live before black friday. at peak hours like a friday or saturday night, there would be so much action online that if you wnated to think of it in live terms it would be 3 or 4 las vegas poker rooms filled with all Lo8 action. sometimes 15-20 tables at a stake level during a given period. thats why I estimated the figure at 99%.

When u would see the online action during peak hours, the amount of lo8 at all US casinos i dont think even compares, and thats even before i take into account literal action, meaning actual hands played, because there are of course people playing multi-tables and giving off huge amounts of action online.

These facts tie in with my conclusion/prediction in my last post according to my theory that *the casino Lo8 games are fed by and thrive on online poker players to fill their ranks at the casinos peak hours*

this is why i think its so important to get us players back into a regulated online market, because I think the growth of the Lo8 game around the world depends on lo8's main base of US players to spread it to holdem players and other poker regulars.

[Buzz]

Originally Posted by FoxwoodsComeUp

There was so much more action online than live before black friday. at peak hours like a friday or saturday night, there would be so much action online that if you wnated to think of it in live terms it would be 3 or 4 las vegas poker rooms filled with all Lo8 action. sometimes 15-20 tables at a stake level during a given period. thats why I estimated the figure at 99%.

When u would see the online action during peak hours, the amount of lo8 at all US casinos i dont think even compares, and thats even before i take into account literal action, meaning actual hands played, because there are of course people playing multi-tables and giving off huge amounts of action online.

These facts tie in with my conclusion/prediction in my last post according to my theory that *the casino Lo8 games are fed by and thrive on online poker players to fill their ranks at the casinos peak hours*

this is why i think its so important to get us players back into a regulated online market, because I think the growth of the Lo8 game around the world depends on lo8's main base of US players to spread it to holdem players and other poker regulars.

Don't get me wrong. I hope on-line poker gets going again in the USA, minus any criminal activity or scams (like money laundering and cheating players out of their money).

But if two poker rooms in Las Vegas have full three tables with ten players each (and that happens) - and if four poker rooms in Los Angeles have a total of eight tables with nine players each (and that happens too) then there are over a hundred players playing Omaha-8 in brick and mortar casinos in just the two towns of Las Vegas and Los Angeles.

And I'm not including other cities in Arizona, Northern California, Southern California, Nevada, the east coast, and various other places where I know Omaha-8 poker is played in live casinos.

But just counting Omaha-8 regulars from Las Vegas and Los
Angeles, there would have to be over ten thousand players from the USA playing Omaha-8 on-line for on-line play to represent 99% of Omaha-8 poker action in the USA. Were there that many players playing Omaha-8 on-line poker in the handful of on-line casinos that got busted?

I'm just saying the on-line percentage of USA Omaha-8 players was not 99% (because I don't think it was).

Basically I agree with the rest of what you're saying.

Buzz

[FoxwoodsComeUp]

my calculation for total volume of play included all play at all times, not just like a snapshot at any given time, and the online o8 really surpasses the live o8 at off-peak hours for the casino like early morning weekdays. and play at the peak hours for online FLO8 would have vasts amounts of play/hands and I really feel if you added all action throughout a weeks time period the online would eclipse live play by 99-1.

I'd appromixate that the total number of flo8 tables on pokerstars, Full Tilt and Ultimate Bet at the game's peak time of say 8:30 PM on a friday evening would be nearly 80(possibly eclipsing the number of tables that would be happening live in america), plus lots more if you include tournaments into the discussion. id guess that an online table sees 4-5 times as many hands/hour than its live counterpart depending on the number of players at the table.

but the commentators on the wsop broadcast the past week have said that alot of peopl in the industry are confident that onlien will be back and regulated within a year. Let's cross our fingers.

Come up.

[plaaynde]

Originally Posted by Buzz

Bump.

Threads older than February 1 are to be automatically archived next month in preparation for an upgrade. I'm bumping all 2+2 threads cited in our two stickies that are not already archived so that they will not be lost to us.

This includes all the wells.

Buzz

Bump

[LVPILET]

Originally Posted by Buzz

I didn't notice a decrease in fixed-limit Omaha-8 tables in the Los Angeles area casinos I visit. If anything, there might have been a slight upsurge (probably due to some former on-line players moving to brick and mortar casinos). And when I visited Las Vegas recently, there were multiple tables of Omaha-8 at the Venetian and the Orleans.

Overall there probably was a decrease in flO8 play in the USA after black Friday, but I don't think it was 99% or even over 90% - maybe much less. (I don't know what percentage of flO8 in the USA was being played on-line).

Seems like this forum took a hit in the number of posts and posters after black Friday.

Buzz

especially at the Venetian the other day there were 4 8/16 O tables and 2 15/30 tables