I don't play much limit so was just donking around really but I found this hand interesting. Initial raiser is a tag and I figure he is AA/AK2/A23 heavy when he 4 bets pre. The other villain is fishy but not awful.

Seems like a standard 3 bet pre for value.

Opted not to bet flop given high chance of a raise. Cold call standard given huge pot or am I setting myself up to call 3/4 bets with nld only?

In retrospect I feel that I should have jammed the turn with TPTK and NLD. Thoughts?

OTR I figured that my high hand could be good (vs whiffed low draws) but didn't want button to over-call with bare AA so I opted for a raise. Thoughts on this river re-raise most appreciated.

Cheers, Bob

I think your call on the turn is fine. But I would just call on the river.

Buzz

just call riv

River raise is a pure bluff, you never get called by worse there.

risk/reward tells me to raise the turn.

if i'm gonna flat the turn with a good hand in a 10BB pot, why not put in another bet and raise, instead?

even for the slight chance the BTN has barish AA and would fold.
SB doesn't have to have us in bad shape in spite of his flop C/R. Isolating him should be very logical in this particular situation.

that's how 3-handed pots in a FL structure are played: with a small additional investment (betting and raising, something check/raising) the better two hands equity wise try to get the 3rd hand out. you see it happening in Razz all the time, but it's a sound approach for any FL poker game.

pushing BTN out would mean last position and pot equity boost.
the pot is huge. I think it's well worth it.

I don't play limit but kind of looks like SB has you beat all other streets seem fine

It is sort of a unique situation where the bluff raise only costs 1 bet, since you would otherwise be calling. The raise needs to work a bit less than 10% of the time. If for instance you believe sb is around 50/50 to have a missed draw and button is 50/50 to have AA (and will fold to a raise) I think a raise would be a good idea. However, given nuances of the hand I think sb will be heavier on 2 pair and sets than in a similar but slightly different situation.

Given the SB's line it looks most likely he flopped a set with either A244 A255 or A299

I can call 1 more bet on the river as he could possibly play the hand the same way with AA23 or A236 but i definately would not be raising in this spot

it's either a level or you're giving SB way too much credit...
he could be playing A3TT, A39*, other low stuff like 2356 and many A2 hands exactly the same way...

I think the river raise is interesting. There must be a fair chance we just get worse hands to fold, because they could both be chasing a low. When I look at the range you assign to button, I guess we are trying to get stuff like AK23 to fold. I definitely think he can fold such a hand. We can easily have rivered a straight, and there are lots of other hands we can have where he is beat.

Its easy for us to raise/fold so we only need to invest the one bet as compared to calling. I suppose we can't fold when it comes to us first time - I mean, we can be behind a lot but its possible they both have lows. Assuming SB barrels his missed lows it looks like we can't fold. If he doesn't barrel his missed lows we are in big trouble against his value bet.

It becomes a question of the ranges of SB and BTN. Does SB barrel enough tripe? Does BTN have enough of the hands we are targeting? Its difficult to say - my worry is that we aren't beating SB enough given that we also need BTN to have a certain part of his overall range.

I like this idea. If we have enough of a high hand to win at showdown unimproved against SB, it seems like a really good play. I'm thinking we could do this sort of thing in 4 way pots as well, when second to act.