I am a regular pot limit O8 heads up player. I am going to start playing LO8 live. Any advice would be greatly appreciated since I dont really understand limit. I have an excellent grasp of omaha 8 but I do not have any limit experience.

don't go out of your way to make things happen.
what do I mean by that?

10 handed table, not enough space for everyone. one stinky guy to your right, a drunk loud dude to your left, 15 hands per hour. across from you, you have some smart *** guy who talks strategy and berates the fish, the dealer makes a ton of mistakes and rolls his eyes or even flat out yells at whoever corrects him (usually the wise ***, the one across from you, remember?) you get like 2 playable hands in a session, you lose both when your nut/nut draw doesn't get there (you actually quietly muck on the river in both cases) and the winner of both hands, some middle aged man with no brain whatsoever but with barish 2 pair (not top two...) can't stop himself, telling you: "I knew you were jamming on the come, I know how people like you are playing..."

relax, lay back in your chair, be nice to everyone. be cool, like playing live LO8 is the best thing that could happen to you and you're grateful to whoever's in charge of destiny...

be the mannest you can be...

listen to your great poker mind telling you you're about to make a silly, unnecessary FPS mistake because you're bored, hungry, sleepy or distracted by the cleavage of the hot girl who wants to know exactly which game it is that you're playing (not all is bad, my friend!)

oh, and one last thing: don't get bored, hungry, sleepy or... well...

hope that helped! GL and may you be $$$ing very soon!

I call "limit" "fixed-limit" to make the distinction between "pot-limit" and "no-limit" clearer. (I'm not sure if that works for everybody or not, but that' the idea).

The limit (or fixed-limit) threads in this forum are labeled with a , so that you can find them more readily. I think we've been doing that for over a year now, probably a year and a half. Something like that. That labeling should help you find the threads that might help you gain insight to the fixed-limit game, threads with posts specifically directed to limit discussions and hand histories. (You'll see that I've labeled your thread (this thread) with a ).

My opinion is fixed-limit game strategy and tactics are substantially different from pot-limit or no-limit game strategy and tactics, but there's quite a bit to consideration of the differences. I personally think it's better not to dwell on the differences between pot-limit and fixed-limit - and simply learn to play the form of the game you'll be playing.

Get some playing experience at a level you can afford. After a hand about which you have questions, leave the table for a short time while you jot down the situation as well as you can remember it. Then post the hand history here. Include your starting hand, including suits, the flop, turn and river, including suits, the number of players dealt hands, who continued at various stages, and the action. Ask any questions you have. Please post a new thread for each different hand. That makes responses easier. (We'll all be talking about the same hand).

You'll get some responses, and then you have to decide for yourself who is giving advice you can use and who isn't. That's not easy.

Good luck.

Buzz

Where are you going to be playing (not sure if that matters)? One of the most different things about live O8 in low- to mid-stakes from the online PLO8 game, at least at the east coast venues I've played, is that hardly anybody folds preflop, and hardly anybody raises pre-flop. Many regulars play it like they are playing the lottery.

That part is no different on the west coast.

That part is also no different on the west coast.

Buzz

The tip is good and something I didn't know. Looking back now at the FAQ, I see it's in there.

+1. The other thing I find useful is to post in response to someone else's thread (preferably either being the first one, or without reading other people's response) to see if you are accurate in the proper way to play a hand. Posting your thoughts on why you think something is the proper action is useful, because then you can get feedback on if your thought process is correct in addition to just the decision (bet/call/fold) being correct.

if you all ready know how to play o8 hu picking up limit should take you very little time

once you have a pre-flop strategy (push/pull hands) the rest of the game plays fairly straightforward, and you should all ready have a fairly good understanding of most textures

from there its a matter of optimizing lines to win an extra couple of bets..



live games moves slower and limit requires tighter starting hand requirements so you may find yourself bored

I had no idea about the notations of the threads. Must have passed right over it in the FAQ. Thanks! I also use the "fixed limit" term as well.

To the OP, I say post hands. There isn't as much traffic as other forums on 2+2, therefore the signal to noise ratio is excellent. I posted one horrible hand that got plenty feedback and have been a bit gunshy to post again, so I've been reading myself. Utilizing this forum is the best way to learn though.

Oh, and don't drink out of boredom while playing live LO8 lol

Two words


KILL POT !!

The most important thing for a big bet player switching to limit is understand that you are never giving anybody a price to fold. To learn how to force folds, you will need to find situations to your advantage, never by pot pricing. For instance, there are some spots where you can make it two bets cold to somebody and force a fold. Another play I like particularly is kinowing when someboyd is bet/folding, say a straight on a paired board, and pop them with a busted flush, and having them fold. you will get the hang of this as time goes on

Also, this may sound silly, but if you're used to the excitement of big pot play, a slower moving limit game with lots of people playing to the flop will be very tilting. Especially when you're stuck and the game is crawling. Don't allow this to make your play spewy!

TBH, when we sit down at a typical loose live game, getting called (incorrectly) is what's usually on our minds...
getting folds can be very nice on occasions, but the big word remains: $V-A-L-U-E$.

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